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I've now been awake for nearly 22 hours, please help...

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OhWhatAPalaver · 10/10/2016 01:34

Dd is 16 weeks. She has had one stretch of good sleep in the past 4 weeks, which was last night, she went from half ten till half 4, which was amazing. She is very refluxy and we gave her infant gavisgon before bed last night for the first time. We put the good sleep down to this so tonight we gave her the gavisgon as a dream feed at half ten as she fell asleep earlier than expected (9ish).
Since then she hasn't settled properly and it took several attempts to even get her in her cot without waking up. When She did finally go down she was awake again half an hour later sas she had wind. She incredibly difficult to put down at the best of times and only wants to sleep on me. Needless to say I'm exhausted and I'm struggling.
She's ebf so usually falls asleep on the boob but this usually means she's very difficult to wind. I'm now feeding her again as she was distressed and I don't know what else to do. I can sometimes get her sleep with rocking and singing to her but I've not go much energy left for that now. She sometimes settles in her chair with the music and vibrate on but she never stays asleep for long in it.
It's all going tits up at the moment, every decision I make to try and get her to sleep better seems to be wrong. I should have just left her sleeping instead of giving her the dream feed.
I'm supposed to be taking dd1 to school in the morning which is a 50 minute round trip in the car and I'm dreading it. I'm just too tired. Sorry this is so long and waffly, it's very late and I've been up since 4.30 am!

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OhWhatAPalaver · 16/10/2016 21:39

It's going sort of ok. Dd had a couple of good stretches of sleep over the last week or so and has had less reflux but it seems to be that the wind is now the other end quite a lot too, which wakes her up quite often.
Also because she went two or 3 nights with longer stretches I've ended up with mastitis because of the missed feeds! If its not one thing it's another eh.

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amysmummy12345 · 17/10/2016 19:14

Oh no!!!! Keep an eye on the mastitis, it can be quite serious if fever etc set in, touch wood I've not had it but have heard from friends it can be awful Flowers

OhWhatAPalaver · 17/10/2016 19:21

Thanks. I've had it 3 times now! The first time was awful, felt like I had flu and excruciating pain in my boob. Second and third time not quite as bad, still rough and achy but no fever. I think and hope it's on it's way out now. Just going to have to be really careful not to let my boobs get too big!

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Kerala2712 · 21/10/2016 06:09

My daughter was like this and turned out to have a cows milk protein allergy- she was breast fed and when I gave up dairy totally after 5 days she was off all treatment for reflux and slept for 6 hours straight. Before that she wouldnt sleep more than half an hour (on me) at a time for the first 16 weeks. Hugs.

Nan0second · 21/10/2016 22:22

My non sleeper was also cows milk protein (and soy) allergic.

She only stopped refluxing (screaming) as badly once she was 6 months old and I cut out dairy and soy (breastfeeding) as that's when we found out (weaning).
We also needed to push up the dose of ranitidine...

Theonlyoneiknow · 21/10/2016 22:24

Also another recommendation for cranial osteopath. Worked wonders with both of my two. Hope tonight is better OP

OhWhatAPalaver · 22/10/2016 02:43

I've spoken to gp about it who recommended going dairy free, so that is what we are doing! Only been a couple of days so no huge change yet but I'm hopeful... It's looking more like an allergy than true reflux now so fingers crossed this sorts it! Quite difficult cutting both dairy and soy as I'm veggie anyway so half my diet is soya based... Going to have to be creative food wise I think.

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LauraPalmersBodybag · 22/10/2016 03:03

Palava sorry, I've not read the full thread but just wanted to pass on something that helped with my very refluxy baby - my MIL bought us Sleepyhead pod which raised her up a fraction and held her in a comfy position. They're expensive but my DD would lose huge mouthfuls of milk after every feed until the Sleepyhead. It also saved on washing sheets and sleeping bags every day.

Good luck and I hope you're getting some sleep.

OhWhatAPalaver · 22/10/2016 04:35

Thanks for the tip, been looking at those, they look like a nice place to sleep but wasn't sure how safe they are? Do they not present the same issue as cot bumpers what with the padding? I've heard lots of good things about them though.
Not getting much sleep tonight. She's windy the other end now, so many farts!

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Oblomov16 · 22/10/2016 05:30

Poor poor you. I had sleep deprivation with ds2 and it really is the most awful thing.
There is hardly any support out there from GP's and HCP's, but maybe you should try again? Or at least get it noted on your files that this is what you think it is?
I too agree with the child being more upright for sleeping, helped my ds2, so is worth considering.
Really is an awful time. You have our sympathy and understanding.

MrsMontgomerySmythe · 22/10/2016 06:21

Ds is now a big strapping teen but was also like your daughter.

His reflux was also caused by a milk allergy (I was guzzling the stuff) and improved when I cut out dairy.

I realised too that he was in pain so feeding for comfort = over eating = more pain etc. It became a viscous circle at night. We finally have him a dummy to suck on after feeds and it worked really well - and he and I got more sleep.

OhWhatAPalaver · 22/10/2016 07:09

This is the exact problem we're having! She gets so upset that the only way to calm her is by feeding her, which then causes more pain. I have tried a dummy but she just spits it out most of the time. I will have to persevere with it...

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Tumtitum · 22/10/2016 20:17

OP sleepyheads are safe, look on their website I think it says something about them being tested and the fabric used means that a baby could breathe through it even if they squish their face up against it! My DD (8months) is still in hers and quite frequently sleeps with her head resting on the side as she's getting a bit big for it really but I'm too scared to try taking it away

fluffikins · 22/10/2016 20:23

The breast milk heals the gut with cmpa so feeding is only a Good thing. Hopefully you see an improvement with the diet- I did, best thing I ever did was go dairy and soya free for my dd

mummarichardson · 22/10/2016 20:37

Feel for you my son had reflux and it was an ongoing battle until he was 6 months to get something that worked for him.

Gaviscon just didn't work, it helped him keep his milk down but then after a day of use he got the same as your dc and was writhing around. It was because it makes them constipated. A friend recommended giving one bottle of the ready made milk with gaviscon once a day a go and this did help him go.

In the end we saw a paediatrician who suspected it was a cows milk protein allergy and we were prescribed nutrimigen alongside omeprazole. It was like a different baby over night! Within 3 days he was sleeping through the night 7-7!

I really had to push my GP and I did have to just tell them that I was at breaking point and wanted to be referred to a paediatrician.

A good book also is 'the sensational baby sleep plan' by Alison Scott wright. She is an expert in reflux and gives really practical advice and lots of tips on how to speak with gp about it.
Good luck, I feel the tiredness but it will get better once you start managing it properly Smile

321zerobaby · 22/10/2016 20:44

My 2 had dreadful wind, I narrowed it down to bananas and stoned fruit (peaches etc). Now older, both of them hate bananas.

OhWhatAPalaver · 24/10/2016 05:43

Thanks for the replies. I'll look in to sleepyheads, they sound pretty good!
We had a very exhausting day and night the other day and then on Saturday night I think she was so exhausted she slept for 8 hours! Unfortunately it didn't last, she's been quite symptomatic and awake a lot again tonight, which I blame on the egg I ate for lunch as it's the only unusual thing I ate all day yesterday... Poor thing has a itchy rashy face and is clearly having digestive discomfort. Looks like I'll have to cut egg out too!
Thanks for the book recommendation mumma will take a look :)

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