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11 week old Baby in own room

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Rockelburger · 04/08/2016 22:07

So I want to put her in her own room as she is so noisy! but am concerned. She sleeps through from about 9/10 pm - 6/7 am. But around 3/4 starts making noises and shuffling around. She doesn't have a funny yo get to sleep but does seem to need one to settle down again at 3/4.

Am I encouraging her behaviour? If I put her in her own room will she just settle herself or will she fully wake up?

I don't want to spoil a good routine but she is keeping me awake even though she is not awake herself. I just worry at every little noise and think I might intervene too soon?

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applesvpears · 04/08/2016 23:09

I wish I had not read this thread. My DD is nearly 5 months old and is in her own room. It is across the hall, we have Angel care breathing monitor, video cam and yes I know infant first aid. She is in a grow bag so no blankets.

She has been in her own room since 4 months as she out grew her Moses basket. We all sleep better since the move.

Although I might not sleep better after reading some of these posts.

I don't stick in her room if she is having a nap either, most of the time she only has quick naps anyway and usually in pram or my arms but if she does go in cot I use that time to do housework or work out.

Bee14 · 04/08/2016 23:11

I have the same problem (plus a snoring husband!). I have found putting one earphone in and listening to music/ audio book/ tv programme whilst I fall asleep works wonders. It's never load enough to block any cries and runs for a limited time so I easily heat him before he gets to screaming stage when he's hungry. Also use the Angelcare

applesvpears · 04/08/2016 23:14

I am lucky to have been on first aid courses and have a paramedic family member. For those who don't know much about first aid. Maybe read through this

www.redcross.org.uk/What-we-do/First-aid/Baby-and-Child-First-Aid

Metalhead · 05/08/2016 07:14

apples if you look at the statistics, SIDS risk peaks at 3-4 months and then drops down quite quickly so at 5 months you're over the worst.

welshweasel · 05/08/2016 07:19

Ear plugs are awesome. Have used them since DS was a few weeks old. He's still in with us at 6 months, need to think about moving him at some point. The SIDS risk was too much of a concern for me, also when he hit the 4 month sleep regression it was much easier having him with us. As others have said, breathing monitors are proven not to decrease chance of SIDS. That's why hospitals don't recommend them, even in babies who have been admitted with an apnoea episode.

Foxsox · 05/08/2016 07:26

I agree PP
If there's any chance please keep baby in with you, it's safer all round.
My baby co slept (side car Crib) and napped either on me or in the downstairs crib until he was almost 1.

Plus at 11 weeks things aren't aetbin stone, teeth, weaning and gtiwth spurts will all change the sleep patterns of your child so in all honesty this current routine isn't likely to last.

Ps . If you dream feed, your child doesn't sleep through!

Andcake · 05/08/2016 07:26

My view on these things is if you follow the medically advised rules and something happens you know you have done your best. If you take a risk and the worst happened ...well in both scenarios it would be awful but basically I just need to know that I am not taking any risks.
Saying that I check on 4 year old at night and didn't move him out of our room until long after 6 months I just needed to know he was ok and hearing him just helped me sleep better.

welshweasel · 05/08/2016 07:29

Oh and at the moment if he wakes I can jump up and pop a dummy in and he usually goes straight back off, the two times we've tried him in his own room I've been too slow and he's woken up completely!!

Xmasbaby11 · 05/08/2016 07:32

I always filled sids advice including daytime. Actually dd2 was in our room til she was 14 months! They both outgrew moses basket after 2 months and we used travel cot with a mattress. I liked keeping them close and it seemed normal to me -no idea if I'd have had more sleep otherwise. I was on maternity leave for a year so didn't matter if I was tired.

MephistoMarley · 05/08/2016 07:33

Jesus people really don't understand statistical probability do they?
Of course you can't 100% prevent sids by following guidelines. But you can significantly reduce the risk. There will always be babies who die despite all the guidelines being followed but there are also babies who would have survived if they were followed. Why would you want to deliberately raise the risk that your baby will be one of those?
Surely a few more months of broken sleep are worth the reduced risk of sids?

dinodiva · 05/08/2016 08:00

My DD went into her own room at 3.5 months. And she's fine. I did end up cosleeping for a while after that because the 4 month regression hit us hard, but even then she always went to bed in her own room.

I took the view that they are guidelines, not rules, if you decide not to follow them then it's entirely up to you and no one is going to come and take your baby away if you don't. I decided that the risks were very low, made an informed decision, and it was better for my own mental health for her to go into her own room.

MYA2016 · 05/08/2016 09:49

I wouldn't move your DC so young personally.
My ds was very similar to yours at that age and slept very well but the little noises kept me awake.
I made the decision to keep him in with me because I would never forgive myself if something happened and the research is there for a reason.
Then the 4mo sleep regression hit and we were up on average 10-12 times a night.
Thinge are better now but I'm very glad I didn't move him early.
All day naps are in my arms every single day, even now

MYA2016 · 05/08/2016 09:54

Also the way I look at it is like this... the whole "it's guidelines not rules" argument....

Does that mean if you saw a heavily pregnant woman smoking you wouldn't care, or you'd tell her "it's fine, you're baby will be fine. The guidelines say you shouldn't smoke but it's not a rule" ??

I don't think so

Doje · 05/08/2016 10:52

There's plenty of info on the internet, so I would say, if you are going to do it, make sure you make informed decision. You can access how many babies died of SIDS by month in total.

I moved both mine out after 4 months, because as a PP said, the risk reduces after then.

Ironically, I have found they do get less noisy after 4 months.

NickyEds · 05/08/2016 13:35

We slept in the same room as ds for 6 months and at that point he was still have all nap not only in the same room as me but physically on me! Dd is moving into her own this weekend, she's one. It really isn't a horror story having your one year old in with you, I quite like it actually.

The guidelines have, as a 'bundle' reduced sids dramatically. All of this 'mum knows best' and 'if it's going to happen it's going to hapoen' stuff is nonsense IMHO. I looked up some stats when ds was born and if I remember rightly around 10 times more babies died in the year I was born than the year ds was born, it convinced me to stick to the guidelines.

Artandco · 05/08/2016 13:39

Mums don't know best always. Remember when many drank Guinness for iron?

Grassgreendashhabi · 05/08/2016 13:49

Is the OP coming back ?

Notso · 05/08/2016 14:05

A local family lost a 10 week old baby last year. They were using a breathing monitor.

Dontyoulovecalpol · 05/08/2016 14:08

Is she actually waking up to feed or staying asleep but making so much noise she's waking you up?

Look at the evidence and make the decision based on your attitude to risk. This is part of a host of advice and recommendations which reduce Incidence of SIDS but SIDS is extremely rare so it may be you're not as concerned as some. Just make sure you know what you're doing.

Dontyoulovecalpol · 05/08/2016 14:09

No evidence that breathing monitors work.

SortItAhhht · 05/08/2016 14:15

I think she is very young to be sleeping in another room, personally.

Dontyoulovecalpol · 05/08/2016 14:22

I don't mean to be the bearer of bad news but the problem with SIDS as barb said (amazed you know 2 of the 200 babies that die in a year though??!) is that the babies can't be resesitated.

Infant first aid is a fantastic skill but won't save a baby from SIDS, which is also why monitors don't work.

However, most recent research shows that markers are being found to indicate which babies are highest risk of SIDS - these are genetic and developmental and not related to their environment (although not smoking and using appropriate bedding etc is obviously still Important to prevent suffocation/ over heating and so on)

datingbarb · 05/08/2016 19:08

Don't tell me about it I went through having 3 children in 11 years and never honestly knew nothing about SIDS except knowing my mum had a baby brother die from it 50 odd years ago, then suddenly I had my 4 baby and within 4 months knew of 2, one a friend other not a personal friend but someone I knew from school.

My view on it and from what I have heard from my friend via the doctors is really if it's going to happen it will happen regardless of where they are sleeping because sadly they don't really know why it happens, friends baby just died of SIDS, nothing was found they could rule out suffocation, he had no heart brain defects the only link is he was a boy, low birth weight and born at 37 week.

I spent hundreds on baby monitors thinking they were keeping my children safe and that if they stopped breathing I would be alerted immediately and be able to save them, so I was shocked to hear that there is nothing you can do, it could happen in a room full of doctors and not one of them could save that baby.

I also think there is a difference between SIDS and a baby that died from getting tangled in blankets/ pillows etc.

It's like co-sleeping, co sleeping wasn't for me but I know lots of people do it and that's great if it works for them but all info I read relating to SIDS says no co- sleeping

I think all you can do is be sensible and follow sensible advice by being careful about bedding, pillows, sleeping on back etc

cathf · 06/08/2016 13:31

My babies were all in their own rooms at two days old. I don't know how people on mumsnet ever get anything done! I have never heard anything as ridiculous as letting a one year old nap on you during the day. I hope the mums that do that are not the same ones who complain that their husbsnds don't understand how busy they are as a SAHM!

Artandco · 06/08/2016 16:16

Cath - at 1 mine would be put in a sling and fall asleep whilst I was working or doing something. That's still sleeping on me. Having them sleep in a cot away from me would have been more of a hinderence as then I would have to wait for them to wake up before I could go anywhere

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