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Overtired 8 month old terrible sleeper, help needed please!

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Mamabear15 · 28/09/2015 09:52

Hi all, I'd be really grateful if anyone has any suggestions as to how I can improve the sleeping habits of my almost 8 month old boy. He has always been a particularly bad napper, it is a nightmare to get him to nap as he fights it so much, and when he finally does fall asleep it is only ever for 30-45mins max. I think the reason for this is because he is overtired, after much googling the only advice I have found is "you need to put him down earlier,before he gets overtired", but this is IMPOSSIBLE. He doesn't show any of the typical sleepy cues (yes I know them all), he just seems to always be overtired. So I've tried going by the clock too but whether I put him down after 1.5 hours or 3 hours or anything in between, the result is always the same - fighting sleep like crazy, crying, and eventually falling asleep for 30-45mins. I also have to bounce/rock him a lot first to calm him down before putting him in his cot. I have tried to get rid of the bouncing/rocking but he becomes too hysterical and would never fall asleep in a million years. Night tine is a slightly different story. He always gives in his cot fully awake after his last feed, he then whinges/fusses a bit but falls asleep on his own within about 20mins. Sometimes he sleeps well only waking up twice in the night to feed, but most of the time he wakes up much more frequently (but not to feed) and again, I think this is down to his overtiredness not allowing him to sleep soundly. So does anyone have any advice as to how I can break this overtiredness cycle? He already goes to bed early (around 6pm) so I don't think an earlier bedtime is an option. Neither is a later bedtime, he is always exhausted by tea tinme. I'm sure if he took better daytime naps the situation would improve but I've been trying for months to get him to nap better and nothing works! Can anyone suggest anything? Thanks.

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GenevaMaybe · 06/10/2015 11:36

There's no way I would be introducing a nap at 5pm. Way too close to bedtime.

When my LO was 8 months old, we were doing:
wake 7am
nap 9-10
nap 12.30 - 3
Bed 6.45pm

It is very hard to extend naps but it is not impossible. You have to resettle for up to 45 mins for the first few days but after that they get it and sleep longer.
Sounds like now your baby is not getting enough restorative sleep.

Mamabear15 · 06/10/2015 12:32

Puttheteaon, thanks for the suggestions, I've tried most of them but will give them another go.

Geneva, we haven't been trying to nap at 5pm, the latest I can get him to nap is 4pm, even if I tried for a later one it wouldn't work and he would probably think it was bedtime.

Things haven't improved unfortunately, in fact they have probably got worse - yesterday I tried for a morning nap for an hour and a half and just had to give up in the end. He had 2 30min naps all day. I know he isn't getting anywhere near enough restorative sleep but I can't do anything about it, it's so depressing.

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puttheteaon · 06/10/2015 13:44

Don't beat yourself up, its absolutely not your fault and its so tough when you try really hard and nothing works. My lo was identical until recently and I'm in exactly the same position for night wakings and sure there are loads of us!Think some babies are just easier than others when it comes to sleep - drives me up the wall when people post pictures of their babies sleeping soundly under a baby gym or mat!!!! How is it so easy for them???

Xxx

LikeSilver · 06/10/2015 14:14

OP, you are doing your best, that's all you can do, give yourself a break. It's really tough.

My DD was a textbook sleeper but my DS isn't. At 8 months he wakes up anytime between 5am and 6:30am (no rhyme or reason to this as far as I can tell!). He then naps 2-3 hours later for 45 minutes-ish. He is then awake until 12:45pm when he will have a good two hour nap when we get home from taking DD to preschool. Then that's it until bedtime, he goes to sleep between 6:30-6:45pm usually. He then feeds at 1:30am-ish and 4am-ish. He's BF and we co-sleep. I didn't co-sleep with DD but I dread to think what this one would be like in a cot and I do whatever gets me the most sleep!

He's my second so to be quite honest I just let him get on with it. He's always had to fit in with whatever DD is doing. The two-hour afternoon nap though came along with him crawling (a few weeks ago - before that he was having two short naps) so perhaps as your DS gets more mobile things may improve? Fingers crossed.

Mamabear15 · 06/10/2015 14:33

Thanks very much for your messages, they make me feel better, yeah fingers crossed that things will improve as he gets more mobile. He is trying to crawl but can't do it yet - he was quite slow to roll over and sit up unaided so crawling might be a while off yet. But it gives me something to hope for! Thanks again x

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