Is CC the only thing that will fix this? 10 month old.

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Very much at end of tether here with DD2 who is just 10 months has never slept well and has never slept through. Had reflux as a young baby so this is probably behind the poor sleep patterns.

About a month ago she was heading in the right direction, resettling easily in the night after a feed and sometimes just 1 night feed which was a big improvement.

For the last 2 weeks she has been awake for long periods every single night. Last night was basically awake for about 4 hours. Self-settling is now out of the question - even when fed to milk-drunk she will ping back awake. Rocking, feeding, co-sleeping, redoing bedtime routine: none of these things work. Really don't know what else to do and am on verge of losing my shit. DH and I are both working and both very tired.

I understand that at least some of this may be separation anxiety or developmental (DH thinks she will walk within a few weeks) but I just don't see it magically getting better unless we Do Something. I don't mind one or two night breastfeeds but the walking around rocking her for hours repeatedly is ridiculous and cannot continue.

I'm not sure why I'm writing this but would love if anyone who has been here with a baby this age could tell me what happened next! I'm not ideologically opposed to CC as a last resort but we are so tired that my worry is we will crack and not implement it properly and make everything worse.

Background: Naps are generally fine. 2 naps a day, one shorter, one longer, both in cot unless we're out at the weekend in which case it's car or buggy. Intake of solids is very good. She has used a dummy regularly but not religiously at night since about 3 months but now it seems to make things worse if anything as she just sucks on it and makes an infuriating loud groany sound but stays awake. She has a comforter. She will happily drink a bottle but it does nothing to put her back to sleep.

Any advice or tales of similar woe much appreciated

Have you read the 'what worked for us' thread opening post?

That might work for you. It is sort of a cross between speeded up gradual withdrawal and CC but while staying with child reassuring.

I would try cutting down the naps tbh... May be sleeping too much in the day so not tired at night

Firstly is her reflux fully under control?? Have you introduced any new foods that could have possibly affected it?

We found 9/10 months really difficult sleepwise with our DS (refluxer, now 2).

We ended up buying a rocking chair as we couldn't stand and Rock him for the 45mins/hr that he needed to get him to sleep. We eventually managed to wean him off the rocking and just cuddled him to sleep. That then progressed to in the cot and stroking his back and from there to in the cot and self settling. It was all incredibly gradual and took about 6 weeks all in.

We didn't go down the CC route as we found this aggravated his reflux and we would then have to deal with tears and sick!

DD didn't do that a huge amount but when she did, we just plonked her in the middle of our bed and both tried to doze while she jabbered or looked at a book. Eventually she got bored and went back to sleep. It doesn't do anything to address the issue and she didn't do it regularly but it did mean we stayed horizontal!

Thank you everyone, sorry for the delay in responding. Another hellish night here and we are so shattered. She has developed quite a cold which is of course making things much worse, seeing as she can't breathe

FATE yes, I remember reading that thread as far back as the early days with DD1 who was also a poor sleeper for the first year! Though by 10 months she was certainly on the right track and able to sleep for much longer stretches. I have a worry that DD2 is one of those babies for whom it is actually worse if I'm there in the room with her, she gets SO wound up and overstimulated...I don't know. It certainly seems like a good option on paper.

ThedementedPenguin it's hard to know about naps, whether more sleep or less is required! She is going to be all over the place this week anyway as settling into nursery :( Yesterday did a grand total of about an hour all day. I think when the dust settles it's worth looking at.

Gothic thanks so much for your input. It's a good question about the reflux. It seemed to disappear overnight once she was on solids, and she'd had a big issue with wind until 6 months but that too had gotten a lot better. I have really been wondering if it might be affecting her again, but nothing has overly changed in her diet I don't think. We do have an appointment tomorrow about her allergy (egg) and I am going to ask about CMPI. I am really liking your suggestion of just buying a rocking chair, by the way. It feels like one thing we could actually do that would help!

trilby yes we did this for a while last night but she's incapable of going to sleep between us of her own accord. DH had to rock her and then managed to get her lying down beside him while I escaped to the guest room for a bit.

All in all it just feels like such a massive regression. I know that the word 'regression' is trotted out a bit too often, but it seems to be what it is. I know that it's not forever but I really feel quite defeated at the thought of facing into another spell of nights like this.

Gothic, at what age did your DS's sleep finally settle down?

Ds was waking several times a night from 7-11 months and requiring first feeding to sleep and then rocking to sleep. We night weaned him first (11 months) then did cc. First night was horrendous, 2 hours of on and off crying, going in and out. second night 20 minutes of crying. Third night (and every night since barring illness) he slept though.

We had settled nights from about 11 months when he would fall asleep on his own and sleep through. We've had a bit of regression recently (he's now 2) and we have to sit in his room with him at bedtime until he's asleep yet he's totally fine with naptime - go figure! A plus is he doesn't need any help other than our presence in the room so I can sit and mnet for half hour each night with no guilt!