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Quick response needed - shall I CC or not?

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Beccarollover · 10/05/2004 19:45

Right...

DS is 8 months old

He has been brilliant baby since birth and always very good sleeper - pretty consistently doing 12 hours a night for as long as my hazy memory goes (since about 3 months id say) apart from setbacks due to illness/growth spurts.

He was poorly 2 weeks ago and was subsequantly fed in the night/rocked/cuddled etc.

He is now better but his routine is all over the shop.

I have loosely followed a combination of GF and baby whisperer.

Last few days he has been waking in the night and not settling, having trouble putting him down.

He is getting plenty to eat and drink during the day although I have recently cut a day bottle so he now has 3 x 9oz bottles.

I put him down at 6.45 tonight, he was shattered - by 7pm he was up and crying and nothing would work - I got him up gave him a little milk he then refused it so isnt hungry. Put him back down he went off to sleep but was awake crying in 10 minutes - he is now upstairs crying with his eyes shut and dummy in and I cant decide whether to leave him to it to get his good habits back (from birth I have been able to just lie him in his cot and he has gone off on his own, does this for all naps too) or is this just too cruel at this age?

Basically shall I leave him or go and get him?

He cut 2 teeth a few weeks ago but doesnt have any teething symptoms at the moment.

He is on the brink of crawling - could it be developmental/>?

I dont know what to do

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Clayhead · 10/05/2004 19:48

Very personal decision. I wouldn't but others would. Do what your gut feel tells you. If whatever you try doesn't suit you then just change to another method until you find one that suits you both.

I have an 8 month old who wakes about every 1 1/2 hours and has never been put in a cot but that (cot thing, not waking) is what suits me.

jampot · 10/05/2004 19:49

I would be inclined to just gently rock him as he's lying down just for a minute putting my hand on his bottom so he can feel the rocking motion but not you "cuddling" him. Please do try my ticking clock method - it really works (or it did for me anyway)!!

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Beccarollover · 10/05/2004 19:50

what is your clicking clock method jampot

i feel like absolute shit

i just thought that a period to settle himself might be all he needs to get his carefully built good habits back

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Nutcracker · 10/05/2004 19:50

When you say he is crying with his eyes shut, is he really crying or just moaning ??
If it's moaning then i would definatly just leave him. If he is really crying then i would leave him for as long as you feel comfortable doing.

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Beccarollover · 10/05/2004 19:51

he is now really crying...dp is shusshing him

i cant decide what to do as when i got him up before he was shattered but not upset or ill or anything then i put him down and he went straight off only to wake up 2 minutes later

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Nutcracker · 10/05/2004 19:56

The thing is, IF you decide to do the CC then you have got to be quite strict with yourself.
As tonight is the first night i would put him down and leave him for 5 minutes and see what happens. Then if you have to go back in, just straighten his covers e.t.c and don't speak to him and then come out and leave him for say 7 minutes. Just keep increasing the time by say 2 minutes every time.
It will be hard and you will want to go rushing back in after 2 seconds, but IME it does eventually work. HTH

jampot · 10/05/2004 20:02

You need a fairly loudly ticking clock (Woollies or similar - cheaper ones are louder)and place it within hearing distance of your ds's cot. The ticking sound will (should) calm your ds down and as he's listening to it will (probably) nod off... HTH

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Beccarollover · 10/05/2004 20:04

Right....

Ive just been in and gave him a cuddle

Pick him up and he stops INSTANTLY

Put him down he kicks right off the second his back hits the mattress

Pick him up INSTANTLY stops and is fine

He is shattered - what shall I do

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popsycal · 10/05/2004 20:07

becca we didnt do cc until ds was 17 months old....from about 10 months he fell asleep on our bed with us ...we were happy aboutthis for a while but as he got older we decided to try cc and it worked realy well

Very personal decision - I couldn't have done cc at 8 months. Would you be happy lying with him on a big bed????

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Beccarollover · 10/05/2004 20:07

I feel like ive backed myself into a corner by leaving him now

its truly awful - I have put in SO much effort keeping a good routine and letting him settle himself every night of his life so that i ddint end up with sleep associations like i did with DD (ended up having to do cc with her and hated it)

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Beccarollover · 10/05/2004 20:08

popsy - no not really because for 8 months 2 days he has settled himself wonderfully - has always gone straight off with no problem - it really feels like a complete turnaround in about 3 days!!

I just want him to get his habits back!!

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Beccarollover · 10/05/2004 20:16

he is still going

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Beccarollover · 10/05/2004 20:25

he has gone off.....

feel like supermotherbitch but im sure he knows i love him to death - just needed him to get his skills back so he can have lots of lovely sleep that he is used to.

i think now that ive done it i will keep it up or it isnt fair

i kind of wish I hadnt started but hopefully it was just a little set back.

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Beccarollover · 10/05/2004 20:32

Talking to myself, does this mean everyone thinks im cruel!?

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furniture · 10/05/2004 20:32

Beccarollover I've been going through something very similar with dd who's quite a bit older than your ds (19 months). But she was a great sleeper and lost it due to some illnesses and me cuddling / rocking her to comfort her. I've been doing cc pretty seriously now for the last 6 nights or so and have a thread about it called 'cc advice needed before tonight' or something like that. It's still going. So is the sleep problem!

I do think though that I would have found it easier and more quickly effective to do this when dd was 8 months and not able to stand so easily or speak so well. So I'd go with it if you can.

JeniN · 10/05/2004 20:57

Glad he's gone off...I don't think it's cruel, you're just trying to get him back into the routine he has done well in all this time. Put your feet up and relax now! It's so hard when you don't know why they keep waking suddenly, but if he's not ill and not obviously teething, then its probably sleep he needed. DD same age has a fever tonight and keeps waking up poor sweetie thank goodness for children's nurofen. Hope he stays sleeping sweetly!

Beetroot · 10/05/2004 21:20

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aloha · 10/05/2004 21:38

You aren't cruel. He was tired. The 'cure' is sleep, not cuddles - lovely though they are. You've helped him get to sleep and now he's happy and will be happy in the morning. Saying no to child who wants to be awake when they need to sleep is no more cruel IMO than saying no to a child who wants chocolate when they need their tea, or no to a child who wants to put their fingers in the electric socket for fun. Both would cry, but in both cases the mum would be right.

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Beccarollover · 11/05/2004 08:18

Thankyou everyone for the lovely advice and making me feel less cruel

Im now glad I did it as after the initial crying he woke briefly at about 10.30 but merely grumbled and went back down with his dummy without even opening his eyes then about 1ish I heard him stir, he had got onto his front which he hates so I redummyed him then put him back and he went through til 6.30 this morning - has woken up happy as larry and ate a really good breakfast.

Hopefully it shouldnt take much more to get his good habits back.

Fingers crossed

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furniture · 11/05/2004 12:46

Good luck Becca, you really are doing this at the right time. For both your sakes.

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Beccarollover · 11/05/2004 18:06

Thankyou furniture - and good look in your plight I will catch up on your thread later and see how your getting on

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Nutcracker · 11/05/2004 18:09

Glad it went o.k Becca

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