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CC with toddler, turning into a collossal battle!!!

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pen73 · 24/11/2006 08:52

Previously great sleeper, my 15mo DD got seriously messed up by our recent trip to Australia for 4 weeks. Ended up co-sleeping at some point most nights to avoid waking our hosts, or fellow hotel guests and we moved around a lot.

Once back here, we had 6 nights of obvious waking thru jet lag and once that subsided I decided to tackle the co-sleeping as I never sleep well and I just want her back in her cot like before. Started on Monday night with Controlled Crying and would really appreciate some tips please!

1st night, only took one comforting, lying back down, going out the door, Knew it was too good to be true.

2nd night woke 2x, and both times again only took 1 or 2 trips in and out.

3rd night woke at 3am, took 4 goes

last night again woke a 3am, I went in and out for 2 hours eventually gave in at 5am and held her, sitting on a chair next to the cot until she was deeply asleep and I put her back in bed.

Last night it was as if she had decided to not give in. Each visit from me seemed to rev her back up again and at times she was hysterical. I never left her for more than 12 mins and this is something I'd like clarification on.

Q1: If you add 2 mins to each time you wait outside, where do you stop as you soon start approaching 16 mins, 18 mins, 20+ mins and I don't know how constructive this is.

Q2: I am picking her up each time as just going in makes no difference and she gets more angry if anything. She squirms about for a bit pointing out the bedroom door and then puts her head on my shoulder and I transfer her to cot, telling her I'm putting her back to bed, it's sleepy time etc, etc. She is yelling by the time she hits the mattress and is standing up screaming before I get to the door. Should I just not pick her up??

She's just woken now (8.50am) and I can hear how hoarse she sounds so I'd better go but might jump back on later if I get any responses. I just really hope we all get a nap this afternoon as I've got that dizzy, sick feeling from sleep deprivation.

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pen73 · 29/11/2006 19:36

Quokkas - I couldn't find anyone local to make up the aroma mix but did dig out some baby sleep lotion with lavender. It's been rubbed on the belly the last 2 nights. Last night she looked at with me with suspicion, but tonight she was really into it. So another good MN tip. Ta

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CantSleepWontSleep · 29/11/2006 21:17

Well done for staying strong. Hope that tonight is going better for you. We seem to be teething here, so had a bad stretch in the middle of last night and trouble settling tonight too - hopefully it won't last long! I'm finding it much harder to leave her any length of time now that I'm used to her settling straight away than I did when we had to do cc properly!

pen73 · 30/11/2006 15:46

Blaaaah!! DD now has stinking cold so I'm giving up till she can breathe. The sofa bed is out in anticipation for tonight. I feel, probably kidding myself, that this is still better than having her in our bed. I imagine it's going to be out fo rmost of the winter. A permanent fixture in the front room. Oh well.

Re teething - have you tried the old fashioned Aston Matthews Infant powders? If placebos work on adults, they must also work on bubs and I do think the ritual of rubbing this stuff on DD's gums somehow helped. And it's only chamomile, so nothing to worry about. Good luck.

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2quokkasandapeartree · 30/11/2006 16:05

Pen if shes got a cold grab the medised you may even get some sleep, as its a sedative as well!

2quokkasandapeartree · 03/12/2006 11:45

Hi pen how are things going?

pen73 · 03/12/2006 21:54

Pretty horrible - do you really want me to continue this tale of woe? Because of the cold I've given up on letting her cry and have ended up sleeping with her either on the floor of her room on a mattress or the sofabed. She wakes at a different time each night - anywhere between 9pm and 1am but goes back to sleep quickly if I bed down with her. I'm dreading giving the CC another go but the alternative of co-sleeping with her till she turns 3 doesn't appeal. I feel really stuck in this situation. She's so bloody minded now and as soon as I pick her up she points at the bedroom door whilst howling. I'm still holding out hope that she might just miraculously resume sleeping through, but it looks unlikely. I know I've got to be a lot more determined than I am to get through this.

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pen73 · 03/12/2006 21:55

Thanks for asking though Quokkas... I thought I was going to bore everyone to death with the pitiful state of things. How's your lot?

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kiskidee · 04/12/2006 01:27

hi pen, at risk of being chucked off this thread, can i mention the book 'No Cry Sleep Solution for Toddlers and PreSchoolers' By Elizabeth Pantley. Not a quick fix and requires a long term view to getting her to sleep on her own but if cosleeping does not appeal to you and cc is also failing dismally, it may have some solutions if not all to a better night routine for everyone.

2quokkasandapeartree · 04/12/2006 09:31

Pen just wait until shes recovered from her cold and then I would go back to cc - but you have to do it properly. I agree with cantsleepwontsleep, you have to follow it to the letter. I think if you do it the right way it will be less traumatic for you and her.

My friends an aromatherapist and I could get her to post a sleep blend to you? The blend costs £5 then what ever postage would be (it doesn't weigh much). I swear by it, the few times I haven't used it the dc have woken. I promise I'm not a sales rep just want to help

pen73 · 04/12/2006 12:39

Quokkas, you're a sweetheart! Would love some sleepblend from your aromatherapist. All our local ones either didn't have appointments for days or didn't do kids, which I thought was bizarre. Anyway, I don't know how to arrange contacting you to sort out the 'transaction'?? Do you know how we go about getting in touch other than posting email addresses?

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pen73 · 04/12/2006 12:43

Quokkas, Just read through the contact another talker blurb. Are you CAT registered? If you have already paid up perhaps you could contact me through the CAT facility. If not, I'll register myself and contact you. Ta!

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pen73 · 04/12/2006 12:46

Kiskidee, I'd always welcome any positive input someone has!!You've used the Pantley technique with a toddler? I was sceptical whether it would work with toddlers....but am not sure that CC is going to work for us as the whole situation has escalated, and now she's having tantrums through the day too over nothing. She's obviously very wound up. I thhink she is very strong willed. Mum says that I was too.... you get it all back in the end huh!

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2quokkasandapeartree · 04/12/2006 12:55

pen I think you have to be registered to recieve them - just email me lauren akers @ yahoo . com Obviously leave out the spaces . Its safer if you don't put it in the proper format. Not that it matters I get bombaded with spam all the time! I can give you her number, will just try to call her to see how it will work?

2quokkasandapeartree · 04/12/2006 13:00

right just spoke to her and she's happy to post, so will give you her number when you email

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