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22 month never slept through night - anyone for Phenigon?

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artyjoe · 09/11/2006 20:52

My 22 month old girl has never yet gone through the night, still having a feed at 3.30am, wakes at 5am, sometimes manage to get her back until 6am if I sleep in her room. She has also started losing her dummy again so may wake twice for that. I have tried CC and it just won't work for us, the only thing that 'kind of' works is if one of us sleeps in her room...not conducive to a good marriage!

Anyway, my dillemma is another mum told me about Phennigan (excuse the spelling) but the bottle says not for under 2's and we are two months out...the mother in question swore by it as her child never slept through the night until he was 5...please God don't let that be us!

Has anyone tried it as a sedative for a child just under 2?

Any advice would be great. Thanks - Joe

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7up · 09/11/2006 20:55

i tried this for my first son and it didnt work,even a high dose and he was under 2. tried it on 2nd son whos now 2 about a year ago and didnt do anything. i think it depends on the child and how much they fight it.i do have friend whos kids sleep all night

neilsmum · 10/11/2006 19:12

phenergan is not recommended .

Mellowma · 10/11/2006 19:15

Message withdrawn

morningpaper · 10/11/2006 19:17

some children don't sleep very well

drugging them is a bad idea

popsycal · 10/11/2006 19:20

we had 20 months of sleepless nights and ds2 is only just slepping 7:30 til 6
took soooo much persistence and hard work on my part

email me if you want popsycal2005
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tiredemma · 10/11/2006 19:23

I tried pehenergan once, what a nightmare- It had a reverse effect on my ds and he was literally awake all ight screaming with night terrors, sweating profusely- I really though that I would have to take him to A&E. Terrified the life out of me.

I would cut out the 3.30 am bottle ( this is why your dd is waking up) and also try to phase out the dummy. I found that my ds2 slept much better through the night once he gave up his dummy- as this was one of the resaons why he kept waking- to find it to shove it back in!!

I really do symapathise with you as my ds2 was a terible sleeper and has only recently ( with past 6 mths) slept through- ( he is now 3.5 yrs btw)

jambot · 11/11/2006 20:37

I would try some other tacks before using the drug. Firstly, by phasing out that nightime feed. She doesn't need it so it's obviously become a habit and I agree that it's giving her a reason to wake up.
Why didn't CC work for you? Is it the concept that doesn't appeal or did you battle with implementing it?
Have a look at Popsycal's old threads re very similar problem. Her DS seems to have gone from nightmare sleeper to angel over the last few months. She'll be able to give you some advice that is age relevant.

artyjoe · 12/11/2006 12:31

Thanks for all the responses, I think I'll leave phergon until she's two, another 6 weeks can't make that much difference to us.

She sleeps with several dummies, the dummy thing is a new one as she used to find it herself, now she screams until we get it for her...very new routine. Giving into the feed is a hard one, which we have tried a couple of times...she screams herself into a fit and then sleeps for 20 minutes to do the whole thing over again until it's time to get up in the morning. We've also tried giving her water which brings on immense tantrums! With regards to CC, we tried it several times and gave up on it because we had got down to 1hr intervals and I think she just thought we couldn't hear her properly, so just got louder and louder, never occured to her that we were choosing not to come to her. I realise we are the main problem because I don't have the heart to leave my only child to cry for over an hour, and it is easier to give a feed at 4.30am that lasts 5 minutes and get back to bed than have screaming fits that last hours so no one gets any sleep.

I have got the bunny clock but I think it's too soon yet as she just laughs at it! I was thinking of getting some night nannies in (can't remember their proper brand name) where they come and get the kids sleeping in the night within a week...but have been put off it because whenever we've got her waking just once in the night (4.30am for a feed) it only took a cold or a tooth or, fireworks last week, to upend the whole thing and get her back to waking several times.

I keep hoping that when she can talk we'll be able to get through to her easier, time will tell.

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Rachaeljward · 07/05/2014 21:41

My doctor recommended it me for my 14mth old when we went on holiday to let him sleep through the flight, worked brilliantly

WorraLiberty · 07/05/2014 21:45

You do realise the child in the OP is now ten years old?

Squeegle · 07/05/2014 21:48

I wonder how she got on Smile

carolinementzer · 09/05/2014 08:15

My mum recommended phenergen when my daughter was such a poor sleeper - she said she was recommended it for my sister by the GP (30 years ago) who never slept through the night until she was 3.

It's not available OTC anymore, and not recommended full stop I believe or at least til 2.

I bought over the internet in desperation tried it one night and it made no difference whatsoever!

What did work, for waking for milk in the night, was Cry It Out With Daddy.
She was EBF until 22 months and would scream all night long if she didn't get her fill of mummy. My husband set up a camp bed in her room - it took 5 nights and by then she was sleeping through (baring in mind she was up 6-8 x a night before) so this was a miracle. I blog about my daughters sleep and the methods we tried to help other tired mummy's if you're interested here's my post on cutting out the milk at night - mydaughterwontsleep.com/2014/02/06/is-breast-best-when-it-comes-to-sleep-apparently-not/
Good luck!

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