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4.5 yr old & sleep- going crazy here!

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TriciaMcM · 16/02/2015 05:29

I've a 12 week old & a 4.5 year old, and the problem is the 4.5 year old! She's been a bad sleeper since she was a baby, but I can't take much more now I've a baby to deal with too. The baby sleeps sometimes for 6 hour stretches- she never does!! I hear the pitter patter during the night & she arrives into our bed. (Pre-baby this had stretched to around 5-6am so we could live with it) Depending on tiredness I bring her back, but she arrives back later anyway. She's a good, tall healthy child so she's big & tends to flail around bed, kicking & arms whacking.

All this means next to no sleep for me because DH would sleep through anything us. It also means I can't feed baby in bed in case she accidentally hurts him so I end up going to her room to feed baby & staying there. She then follows me back into her room an hour before waking up for morning. I'm going crazy but don't know how to fix it without shattering her world that's already a bit topsy turvy with the new arrival.

We tried a hot water bottle in case she's getting cold (I'm in her room now & it's still warm so that's not it). I tried chats about her sleeping in her bed all night that turned to tears very quickly ('I'll be scared without you & daddy'). I know tough love is possibly the only way, but I've a memory of being very small & my own father telling me crossly I couldn't come to their bed any more & being scared. Has anyone any suggestions?

PS please remember this is from 4.5 years of borderline sleep deprivation broken sleep on our parts - when she was a newborn until about 9 mths I read every sleep book going, was on forums, tried everything bar CC as she would vomit with crying even with shush pat or pick up put down. We ended up going with the flow to get maximum sleep.

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JoandMax · 16/02/2015 05:36

How about having a blow up bed/fold up mattress in your room for her to sleep on? Would mean you could still have baby in bed and may not get random flailing hits so much! Do you think she would be happy with that?

My 4.11 year old is often in our bed, he has got a lot better the last few months and we sometimes have 3 nights with no visits then one night with us then 3 nights in his bed again. We have tried everything apart from CC or CIO and nothing works!!! I think he will grow out of it in his own time......

TriciaMcM · 16/02/2015 05:53

Oh thank you for the reply JoandMax, feeling so disheartened & upset by it all as have been awake since she came in several hours ago. Yes, maybe that's a good idea, I could get something tomorrow. If she didn't sleep on it I could! (Not sure if I'm joking at this stage)

Going with the flow seemed such a good plan until baby arrived- we figured no child is still climbing into bed with their parents as a teenager & it seemed to be getting better of its own accord, with a good few nights of her arriving in at wake up time anyway. I guess the new arrival has completely changed her life in so many ways.

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JoandMax · 16/02/2015 06:21

You poor thing, its very hard having years of sleep deprivation! We co-slept as my elder son didn't sleep through til after his brother was born and I got to a desperate point..... Hindsight is a great thing but you made the best decision at the time so there's no point wishing you'd done things differently.

Is your daughter at school or will she go this September? We did see a big improvement when he started school as it exhausts him and he likes being all grown up!

She has had a big change with a new sibling so hopefully once things settle she will start to improve again and hopefully a little special bed on the floor will suffice in the meantime!!

Good luck and lots of empathy xxxx

TriciaMcM · 16/02/2015 15:12

DD starts school in September, but she is in Montessori every morning. Hopefully that will help. I'm such a grouch today as completely exhausted, but will try to sort out a bed for DD for tomorrow night. Thanks again for reply, was so lovely to have even a suggestion when I felt so bad.

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nilbyname · 16/02/2015 15:17

I would push a cot right up to my side of the bed, and feed baby there with the side down. This will also -"barricade" for want of a better word- your aide of the bed.

Dd will have to then go her daddy's side and snuggle with him. That's the rule.

My 3.5 dd is just the same, but she knows she has to come to my side as dh works very long hours, has to drive and he needs his weekday sleep. This works for us.

Sticker charts/GRo clock etc seem
To ou be short term fixes.

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