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4.30ams after going through the night for weeks....

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newmum36 · 15/10/2006 08:58

Sorry if this seems like a whinge if some think I've been very lucky. Jo is 14 weeks and has slept through from 10.30/11ish to anything from 5.30am to 6.45am (and more recently the latter) for about 4 - 5 weeks.
For the past two nights he's woken at 4.30am and has then taken 5oz of formula and then gone off til 7.30am when I get him up.
When he then feeds at 7.30am - he's not hungry (not surprised by that). I can't seem to get him to take more during the day. He naps for around 45 mins morning and afternoon and then has a couple of hours at lunchtime.
If anyone has anything constructive to advise me on (other than - "count your lucky stars and just go with it "!!)....then can you let me know!....
He's been swaddled since little and I'm just about to get him out of it - I've been trying one arm out during naps - and he's found his thumb. I did that last night too (but not the night before when he woke) - but he couldn't seem to find it then !!
He's been fussing with his bottle too a lot recently. Could it be a growth spurt? I can't get any more in during the day either
Sorry for rambling!! Bit frustrated with it all.

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colditz · 15/10/2006 09:01

It sounds like he is thirsty and needs that feed. Just go with it (and count your lucky stars because ds2 was waking 4 times in the night at that age, and he was formula fed too LOL)

newmum36 · 15/10/2006 18:50

I'll feed him - maybe a growth spurt. I'm just worried that we then start the day without a good feed and he'll start to get used to that 4.30am again !! We'll see.

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threebob · 15/10/2006 19:04

it's his age - they all go weird at this age. So I'm afraid that was the "just go with advice" you didn't want. But honestly it's not worth "trying" to do anything. It will change when it changes.

newmum36 · 15/10/2006 20:11

Just, as usual, being a control freak. Must give that up - thought I was getting better ha ha ! Who am I kidding.
As time ticks on and they grow so fast from being a little baby, I secretly like that sneaky cuddling time. No doubt when they're 3 and still trying to hop into my bed at 4am, I'll be a witch from hell.

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fifiandtheflowertots · 16/10/2006 06:51

ive had the same problem with ds who's 5 month. He normally goes from about 8.30pm-7am but over the past 2 weeks started waking up about 5 and wouldnt go back to sleep after a feed. I started giving him a dream feed before i went to bed which sometimes helped a bit, but now he's gone back to his normal waking times, and hopefully will stay that way.
I honestly tried everything i could think of to get him to sleep longer, but there was nothing i could do. Just go with it and hopefully he will go back to normal

ScreamandYellowFeathers · 16/10/2006 07:21

This is so weird, My ds has started doing the same.
He's 8 weeks on wednesday and had been sleeping through from 9 till 6 sometimes 7. The last 3 nights he's woke at 4/4:30am.
I've just put it down to a growth spurt because for over a week he didn't gain any weight so I think he's making up for it.

I reckon it will pass in a few days as tiring as it is.

lesley1417 · 16/10/2006 13:41

hi my ds is 15 weeks .he quite big (16-17 lbs).he WASsleeping from 7am till 5-6 am until about 10 days ago but started waking eratically during night.i've found a dream feed helps about 11ish.then he tends to sleep till about 6.30-7am.i'm sure they get hungrier at this age,especially bigger babies-thats probably why previous guidelines for introducing solidr advised 4 months.

alibobble · 16/10/2006 15:43

sounds like a growth spurt! DD always used to suprise me with hers. She has late feed 10.45 to get her thro to 7am. keep going with routine if it helps you. did same for dd. Feed at 7.30 rather than 7 when fed at 4.30 if not too hungry at 7 but still wont put off next feed. When growth spurt over it settles down again. hth

newmum36 · 16/10/2006 20:41

Yes, I always do a late feed too ....last night, he stirred at 4am but I left him and listened at the door - he was moaning but not crying and then, hey presto, frantically sucked his found thumb and nodded off. A bit of moaning again at 6am followed by some thumb sucking and...he went off again until 7.15am. I upped the bottles today to 7floz and he's taken 3 of these, plus a 6floz and then hope to get 4 -5 oz in at 10.30!!... If he was hungry last night I'm sure his thumb wouldn't have been satisfactory so maybe he had a weekend growth spurt.

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alibobble · 17/10/2006 13:08

HURRAY for thumb sucking! Eventually you won't have to be at the door neither ! SLEEEP! I remember when dd first started going thro the night I woke up automatically at the feed times for a week after! Was so annoying! Hope things contiue to settle

jambot · 17/10/2006 13:13

Leave out the dream feed and let him wake up when he's hungry, probably at about one or twoish. If he takes a full feed then, he should wake up ravenous at about 6:30-7:00

littlepiggieneedssomesleep · 19/10/2006 22:34

It is a long time to expect such a young baby to go so long with nothing to drink, if you stop worrying about been up and just go with it, it is not as bad. We have only just started the sleeping at night battle at 6 months, ds is still up at 11 and 4 for feeds, and has never slept through the night.

clewin · 20/10/2006 21:24

my DS is 4 months old and has always been really good of a night time. Few weeks ago he would fall asleep after a bath and bottle around 8 - 8.30pm then sleep til 6am, but now he is getting really tired at 6.30pm that i have started bathing him then and feeding him then he sleeps through til 5 then off again til 7.30. health visitor told me about not feeding him if he's not crying during the night, give him his dummy and see if he goes off...and it worked!!! cant complain really. babies get into a routine when they're ready some nights my DS will wake around 3.30 for a feed i guess they are thirsty during the night too like us sometimes. I feel so tired getting up feeding him but once he's feeding and looks up and smiles at me I dont feel tired anymore...its amazing!

jambot · 21/10/2006 09:16

Once a baby has reached 5kgs (sorry, don't know pounds), she is physiologically capable of going through the night without a feed. But if she's still not able to, that's fine too, but I still think you should leave her until her own body decides she's hungry, rather than you deciding for her. You might be surprised how long she can go for.
DD slept through from 6:30 to 6:30 at 13 weeks. I never dream feed her. She would normally wake up at about 2am for a feed then back down till 6:30ish. One day she just slept straight through till morning and we never looked back.

clewin · 22/10/2006 21:40

my ds has been waking up alot lately like last night he woke at 1.30 and i fed him then at 4 but after giving him his dummy he went back off then at 6 and fed him then then he slept til 8.30. this is just not like him as normally he will wake once around 5 or 6 am then we get up at 7.30 ish...i've tried watching his routine a bit more today and I am hoping that he wont wake as much and gradually get back into his routine.

chipo · 22/10/2006 21:47

My dd is 16 weeks and has started waking at 4.30 in the last few weeks. To start with I would give her the dummy and she would go back to sleep, but that soon stopped working so the last few of nights I have been giving her water. That seems to work most of the time.

worcestercaroline · 22/10/2006 23:14

my 7 month old, used to sleep through night but since moving house over 2 months ago now wakes abou 4/5 times a night. Stupidly followed the advice of leaving her to sort herself out, now I am still up 4/5 times but instead of a quick 10 min feed its about 30mins as she now grumbles, screams, grumble, screams.feeds,it then takes me forever to get back to sleep. Wish i had just done what I was happy with and fed her after few grumbles I would be getting more sleep!!

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