Putting down awake question

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My DD is a nightmare napper - see other threads for more..!

For now, quick question: if you put down awake but you can see on monitor they're not yet asleep but are content babbling to themselves, how long till you go in? And do you go in when they get grisly or wait till actually crying? (Am not at all up for CIO or CC.)

I'm desperate to get away from putting down asleep which I think is exacerbating the short nap problem. But it's not easy!

Thanks

I never went into dd if she was babbling or singing (at 2 1/2 she still sometimes natters on for an hour at bedtime).

Low level grumping or whining I ignore too. Crying I go into, but only to make sure she has her dummy and teddy then I re tuck in and say goodnight again.

P. She's 4 months

Thanks Think - so far she's been at it 20 minutes and no sign she's actually going to sleep. Do I just persevere until she sleeps or cries?

I don't go to ds if he's content, grizzly whingy noises are usually ignored unless he's getting himself really worked up but any genuine upset and I go to him straight away

Sometimes they just need the time out. Content alone is a good thing - she is more likely to self settle if she is happy to lie alone.

She cried, I went in, picked her up to settle her for a bit, got her drowsy, left. And repeat. So she's now been awake 3 hrs 15 mins and two hours ago I started the sleep process. FFS where am I going wrong?!

She's now obviously overtired so I'm going to take her out in the buggy - just need to get her to sleep at all at this point. Though because she's tired we'll still now have 20 mins wailing before she goes off.

I've bemoaned this on here before but it still makes me feel like a shit mum. And now I'm massively stressed and had to walk out the room for deep breaths because I'm so wound up. Which makes me feel even more shit. Feels like I'm fighting with a four month old.

Try again tomorrow, I guess.

Is she in her buggy in her room? In the early days id put dd in her buggy in her dark bedroom to fall asleep. If she became upset id go in and push her back and forth. Id give it 100 pushes and then leave her again.