Getting daytime naps sorted and the ultimate....sleeping through

[anotherbitofcake]

Hi

Be grateful for comments on LO routine and any tips to try and get him sleeping through!

He's 4.5 months old and ebf. He's gone into cot in his room a week ago.

6:30 wake and feed
Usually feeds every 3 hours though I feed roughly this rather than on demand. Should I try go longer?
Naps- in cot. Half hour kips then wakes and cries for me. I've tried resettling. Doesn't work.
Naps - on me. Can go 2 hours.
Naps - in car, pram. Can go hour or so.
Doesn't fall asleep easily. Hairdryer works a treat. I now put down awake, close curtains, Ewan sheep, Hairdryer!
At night ditto but minus Hairdryer. I've stopped rocking. Now trying to stop shushing and patting.

He has dummy in day for soothing only.

Naps in day max 3 hrs. Should he have more?

Bed by 7pm. Then wakes around 11 and 3. He does seem hungry but maybe he just wants comfort instead?

It is completely normal for a breast fed baby of that age to still need feeds through the night. I think his night time sleep sounds really good.

At that age I still fed my son twice in the night. It sounds normal to me. By 9 months he was waking once and then sleeping 7-7 at 12 months with 2 hr nap (1 hr at half 9 , and 1 hr at 2pm) this then changed to a pn hour and a half nap at 11 which interfered with lunch for awhile! He then went to two hour nap in the after noon from the age of 2 to 3.7.
Just go with whatever is working.

Thanks for reassurance. I think I'm getting confused by reading too much. For example gina ford - 3 hrs daytime naps needed. Baby whisperer - 6!!
He seems happy enough with 3. May possibly need 1/2hr-1hr more my gut tells me.

So nighttime waking like that ok? Again I feel he should now be sleeping through. Though prob down to books plus every god damn person asking me if hes sleeping through yet. How do u know when they are not hungry at night?

I wish I had a mummy who's done it before to tell me what to do!!!

www.isisonline.org.uk/

This website has lots of evidence based information on baby sleep.

It's very normal to still need feeds in night. Ignore books and don't worry about what other people's babies are doing.

Generally at that age I think they need to nap 90min to 2 hrs after waking. So maybe go by that rather than worrying about total time. If baby wakes happy they've had enough sleep. You'll soon know if baby is overtired because they'll become really hard to get to sleep .

You sound like things are going well really.

My 9mo is still not sleeping through. I don't read books. It is fine. She is doing well.

My 2yo sleeps through (and did since 10 weeks). I miss her.

Its all about perception. They are just babies.

Your system looks fine. Keep with him sleeping on you in the day. Its lovely.

Thanks. I do love him sleeping on me. Also gives me excuse to watch crap tv!

Ok am going to burn books and go with flow. Xx

Ps thanks for link - really interesting

Just to say, fellow cake that my dd is 8.5 mths and last night did the nighttime routine - feed at 11ish and 3ish which I was over the moon with compared to other recent nights!
Way back in the days of 3 mths old she slept through a couple of times..(dreams of those days)

My baby is the same age, formula fed, and has the same nights (well usually wakes twice) and feeds every 2.5-3 hours in the day. He used to self settle did it from birth with no input from me, but I'm not well (cancer) so a lot of other people are helping out so he's being cuddled/rocked to sleep or pushed around in the buggy a lot to get him to sleep. It's definitely having an impact on his ability to self settle.

Your LO sounds pretty normal to me xx

My DS is 16 weeks old. He naps in the day after being awake for 2 hours. I usually have to cuddle him to make him sleepy and then put him down and sometimes he self settles. Sleeps 30 min am and pm and usually an hour (maybe two) at lunchtime ish. Every 4 hours ish in the day for feeding although this is on demand. I wake him at 11pm for a feed then he sleeps till 4 ish. I was hoping he's drop the 4 am feed!