Does anybody have any pearls of wisdom?! Ds is 3 and dd is 10 months. When ds was dd's age we could go out for the day, to relatives houses, we'd get him into his PJs and into the car around bedtime, he'd go to sleep, then when we got home (even though he would wake up) we could give him some milk, put him in his cot and he would go back to sleep for the night - lucky us hey! So today we went out, about an hours drive, we left early so the kids would be tired enough to go to bed, but yet we didn't leave early enough, we had a later bedtime. If we had left any earlier we would have had to go during desert! Dd just isn't tired and screaming blue murder. Ds not tired as he fell asleep in car and doesn't nap in the day anymore. But if we leave at bedtime ds would probably be fine but dd would need another 3-4 hours of awake time before feeling tired, that would mean midnight! I hope this makes sense! What do you do? Thanks for any advice!