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catdoctor · 31/12/2013 19:56

DS1 has always been tricky re sleep but we have adapted and developed an OK system over time. He is 3.5 now and since 2 has gone to sleep in his bed with DH or me cuddling him, usually within 5-10 mins of lights out. We have a solid bedtime routine - bath, books, story. He gets a steady bedtime - bath starts around 5.45, lights out/asleep by 7. Then 12 hrs sleep generally. About 4/5 nights he wakes and comes in with us for rest of the night (did co-sleep from 5mo- 2yo). This was all fine as far as we were concerned.

DS2 is now 4wo; from about 6 weeks before he was born DS1 has become deranged at bedtime. Hyper - in and out of bed, all sorts of time wasters- need wee, need drink etc etc, then head stands and leaping about in bed, chattering - basically unable to relax and switch off. Nothing seems to calm him and he is far from compliant at the best of times. Rewards seem to be failing - stickers schmickers. We have resorted to restraining him in bed by cuddling arms and even legs - cue 5 mins shrieking, then conks out. He was similar around 1 yo - what I've seen referred to as a 'tension releaser'. Bringing bed time earlier has a minimal benefit and is hampered by work times. Going later and it does get even worse.

The hassle is now there is DS2 - when DH can handle DS1 we're OK but when he's fully back at work, every other night I'll have DS2 in evening feeding frenzy plus DS1 as described - so far my attempts at bed time have been horrendous.

I tried the 'get into bed or I'm leaving the room' cue hysterics all round.

Thank-you for reading this far - any ideas, pleaseeeeee?

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yumcha888 · 01/01/2014 16:45

Partly replying to offer help and partly to bump your post.

I'm in a similar situation, DS1 is 2.9yrs and DS2 is a pain to put to sleep in the evenings. With DS1 we went through the hyperactivity as I was so hard as nails with him (Jo Frost taking him back to bed without talking technique). He slept fine again for a couple of weeks and then changed tack. Now he pulls the emotional strings asking for cuddles 'like my little brother'. I'm so pathetic, my heart just melts and I cave immediately. So, now, if DH isn't around I just time when I wake / feed DS2 so that I have 20 mins free to cuddle DS1 to sleep (although he gets a max 10 mins after I do teeth etc and sometimes he has to compromise because I'm feeding his brother while I'm in bed with him). I leave DS2 under a play mat thingy to kick around while this happens. I know it's stupid of me but I was one of 4 kids and never got any positive attention, I'm hoping he'll voluntary go back to taking himself to bed one day?

catdoctor · 01/01/2014 19:10

Ta yumcha I have thought Jo Frost, had to pin him down tonight under my legs whilst nursing DS2, DS1 asking for cuddles Sad but he has to sleep.

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catdoctor · 02/01/2014 14:49

Last bump - anyone??

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toomanywheeliebins · 02/01/2014 22:29

We had this too with my DC1 when my DC2 was born. DC1 was two and a half. We were saved by a sleep CD called 'sleep sleep now' available on Amazon and iTunes. Its gentle hypnosis wrapped up in a story. We went from crazy bedtimes to putting it on, kissing chikd and walking out. I have recommended it on here with similar results for others. I should be on commission.
Sympathy. It is bloody crap!!!

catdoctor · 03/01/2014 09:19

Ta muchly for that toomany

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Supersesame · 03/01/2014 15:05

Toomany do you have an Amazon link or the full name of the Cam. Im searching but can't find it!
It sounds just what I need!

toomanywheeliebins · 03/01/2014 18:54

www.amazon.co.uk/Sleep-Now-Children-Enchanting-Bedtime/dp/0956832709/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1388775092&sr=8-4&keywords=children+sleep+cd

It really was the best money we have ever spent. We now have other stories CD's now but this was the original one that calmed things down.

Supersesame · 04/01/2014 22:00

Thank you!

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