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Another desperate mum with a night waking 7mo... What am I doing wrong? Please help if you can!!

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emeraldgirl1 · 02/10/2013 21:04

We are desperate and just really looking for advice.

She goes to sleep v easily at 7.15ish, out like a light until 11 or 11.30... And then the chaos sets in.

She half wakes up, I usually feed her (she is ff) but more often than not I give her a dummy and see how much longer she will go. This can buy another couple of hours if am lucky. So she has a feed around 1am, guzzles 7oz bottle entirely. Back to sleep fine... Then wakings again at around 3, then 4, then 4.30... I usually pop her into bed with me around 5 as she is often wiiiiiiiiiide awake then, on a bad day it will be 6.30am before she is back to sleep, a good day means she goes back to sleep fast but then is awake again at 6.15.

I have started trying a second night feed at around 4am if I fed her before midnight, in case the problem is hunger. I hate doing this as feel it is a regression but thought it might help. It doesn't, really. She has about half a feed. It does get her back to sleep faster than if I were just to try to soothe her bck to sleep though.

I am so tired and demoralised I can't cope with leaning over her cot for ages in the middle of the night, trying to soothe her back to sleep. Hence the second feed.

Either way she still doesn't sleep more than an hour a stretch between 3am and 6. Second feed helps a bit but not much.

So... What am I doing wrong?!

She is on solids, has been since 4m, we are gradually introducing more protein etc but her appetite is still small and she has no teeth so I think she does get quite hungry.

I am offering milk more often in the day. She doesn't have as much as I think she should, I am aware that she needs more in the day and less at night, but how do I do this?! Is she too young to try gradual cutting down amounts at night? Might this encourage her to have more in the day?

Her naps are ok ish... Morning nap is a fight to get it beyond thirty mins even though she wakes up exhausted still at that point! But I am trying hard to leap in and soothe her back to sleep as she needs another half hour ish. But timing of the nap is ok I think, starting at 9 or 9.15. Long lunchtime nap of 1.5 hours at about 12pm then a catnap of 30 mins at about 4.15. As I say, she is fine about going to sleep at night, in fact she is exhausted by 7pm as her nights are so bad!!

Could it be teething? Sometimes she is barely waking up but just shuffling and whimpering in half sleep mode, this wakes me up though and then I can't get back to sleep! Does that sound like teething?

Even when she does wake (not for feeds) she is back to sleep quickly if I give dummy, except for beyond 3am when it is hard to get her back to sleep.

Early waking habit is miserable too.

We have yet to move her into her own room, might this help? DH is loud snorer so maybe he disturbs her? But the waking is as bad when he is in spare room upstairs. Maybe I am disturbing her? Is moving her the first thing to try?

I am rambling, sorry, but am at end of my tether, I cry in the night when she wakes again and can hardly face the days when they start so early... Haven't managed a block of more than four hours sleep since before she was born. Mostly it's two hours at a time if am lucky.

Oh, just to add, I will try anything except CIO, I know that may sound insane to everyone who swears by it but it is just not my thing and would stress me out even more if that were possible!M

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StormyBrid · 03/10/2013 14:37

I haven't any advice, but just wanted to reassure you you're definitely not alone. Over on the March postnatal thread we've quite a range of sleepers. A few go pretty well through the night, a couple are absolutely dreadful at sleeping, and the rest are all somewhere in between. You'd be very welcome to come and join us if you'd like the company and support.

Also, if you're really having trouble getting back to sleep after she wakes you, it may be worth talking to your GP. A few weeks back I was pretty much a wreck despite having a fairly good sleeper, because by the time I'd got to sleep I'd get maybe an hour or two before she woke me, and then I'd be lying awake for another hour or two and eventually getting another half an hour before she woke up again. A low dose of amitriptyline is working wonders - no trouble at all getting back to sleep now.

Grannylipstick · 03/10/2013 15:13

Guess I was just lucky then with my babies. And my babies babies!!

Grannylipstick · 03/10/2013 15:14

Oh and had good sleep genes!!

Clarella · 03/10/2013 15:42

I second what stormy says - I found a low dose odds sertraline (good for bf) worked wonders to help me switch off and actually sleep when I could.

big hugs and hand holding op.Thanks Brew Thanks Brew Thanks Wine Wine not that many people are truly honest about sleep and tend to either forget due to sleeplessness induced amnesia or deliberately don't talk about it due to it taking over their lives for so long.

Clarella · 03/10/2013 15:43

granny I wouldn't be surprised if it works like that as I was certainly a horrendous too!

Clarella · 03/10/2013 15:45

the ikea guliver cot makes an excellent side car cot, think you just drill some extra holes to the right height. only about 60 squid but the unpainted one was recently 30 Grin

Clarella · 04/10/2013 16:17

just incase this helps anyone (it helps me!)

[[ evolutionaryparenting.com/normal-infant-sleep-part-i/]

read part 2 and 3 at bottom of page. extremely helpful.

SquarePolarBear · 05/10/2013 09:35

Emerald i totally sympathise. I have a very similar situation happening here too.. 7mo goes down from 8-12 then dream feed, then wakes between 2-3am wide awake & takes hours to resettle zzzzz Only difference is this is DC2 so even though its like wading through mud I know it doesn't last and they all sleep eventually!

I realise that's spectacularly unhelpful advice!

I cling on to the sound knowledge of my HV that the ones who don't sleep are the intelligent ones...

Hmm Grin

emeraldgirl1 · 05/10/2013 19:09

PolarBear thank you for the empathy!! V glad to hear it DOES end eventually... And re intelligence, we can only hope there is some reward! DH keeps trying to cheer me up by saying it will all be worth the sleepless nights when DD wins a Nobel prize for physics/literature forty years from now... :) I think he's just getting desperate with a sleep deprived misery on his hands!

Clarella thank you thank you, will read the article when (inevitably) I can't sleep after finally settling DD at 3am tonight...

This thread has helped a LOT, thank you everyone who posted :)

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BadCopNoDonut · 06/10/2013 00:04

Shamelessly marking thread. Similar sleep stuff here with DS (8 m)...too tired to type much more but thank you all for the great linkssssssssssssssssssss

User1234 · 12/10/2013 15:29

Hey all
Just thought I would post what has worked for me and my 8.5 month old baby.
She was a terrible sleeper for the first 7 months (waking every hour every night) until I started sleep training her. To clarify what sleep training means to me: I would breastfeed her and pop her in her cot at 7pm as we have always done. If she cried, instead of going back and feeding her more or picking her up we would leave her for 5 minutes and then return to her, check there wasn't a genuine issue and gently place a hand on her chest and say "ssshhh" and reassure her she was alright and we were just downstairs and then leave the room, go downstairs and wait 6 minutes and if she was still crying go back to her and gently shush her again. If she still cried I would wait 7 mins then 8 mins etc.
The results have been brilliant, after 3 nights of "training" (bearing in mind the longest time it took to sooth her was 45mins on the first night, and we never left her to cry more than 10 mins without going in to reassure her) our baby has slept contentedly for 11.5 hours nearly every single night ever since. I feel brilliant and so does my partner (after 7 months of very little sleep and waking pretty much every hour we were both exhausted and our relationship was feeling the strain). More importantly our beautiful baby girl is so much happier in the day time, and i am so much more energetic during the day. Last night she even smiled and waved at me as I kissed her goodnight and left the room
I am no expert, and I also know this may not work for everybody. But for us it worked. We were at a stage where we felt our baby was simply crying out of habit and thinking she needed to feed or be cuddled to go back to sleep because that is what we had always done. I am happy we have taught her she can do it on her own and she is a much happier baby too.

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