9 month old nap times? sleep resistant baby

[minipie]

DD has never been keen on sleep, however recently she has started to really really fight and protest and wake after only a very short nap. I can't work out if she needs later nap times or perhaps it's the opposite problem and she is overtired.

Please can you share your 9 month old's nap schedule (and wake up and bed times?) especially if you have a baby who resists sleep.

oops, forgot to say thank you!

My DS2 is slightly older at 10 months, but has been napping like this since around 6 months.

5:30/6 wake (!)
7:30 nap for 1.5 hours ish, sometimes 2 if I'm lucky.

12/12:30 nap for 1-2 hours

6:30 bed

What times is she napping now?

Ds is 9m.

Wakes any time between 6.30am (if woken by sister!) and 8am.

Nap two hours later (can't go any longer than that really) for 1-2 hours.

Second nap 2-3 hours after waking. Again gets overtired if longer than three hours. Nap is 1-2 hours again.

Afaik these wake times are shorter than you might expect at this age.

He does not resist naps any more provided he is not overtired.

He is, however, a right bugger at bedtime/all evening!

Babies....

my Dd is just over 9mo:

wake 6.30
nap 9 for 1-1.5 hr
nap again approx 3hrs later so around 1.30.This one is usually 1.5 hrs.

Bed 6.30, usually asleep by 6.45

DS doesn't sleep that much, he is 8.5 months. Wakes about 6, has a nap about two hours later for half an hour, usually has another sleep of 30-60 mins around lunchtime, occasionally has a 30 minute nap later int the afternoon instead (or sometimes as well). Goes to sleep by 8. Never has naps totalling more than two hours over the day, usually only an hour or so in total. But he has never slept more than 12 hours of 24 since he was born, unless ill. I think it's normal for him. His childminder complains about it a lot though!!

My DS is almost 9mo. He does something like:
Wake anytime between 5am and 7am but generally around 6.
Nap about 2 and 3 quarters of an hour later for between 45 mins and 1.5hrs
Nap again 3hrs after waking usually for about 1 - 1.5hrs

Occasionally if he's woken early and had 45 min naps then I'll give him a top up nap in the pushchair but I try to make sure he's awake by 4pm.

Asleep by 7pm with at least one wake for feeding in the night.

Currently he doesn't often fight naps or bed but I'm sure he'll cycle back into a more challenging phase before long...

Hth

Thanks all

At the moment she wakes 6ish, first nap at 9.30, she usually only sleeps 30 mins (has always been this way). Second nap 1.30 which sometimes lasts 1.5 hours but often she wakes after 30 mins and I have to resettle her (so I do this nap in the pram to make resettling easier).

Sounds like she is awake a long time between sleeps, especially before her first nap, compared with most of your DCs so I might try putting her down earlier and see if that helps.

minipie just realised it is you...waves hope your mornings are improving, moving house to a quieter street seems to have worked for us...!

fwiw I reckon 9.30 is a good nap time if she is inclined towards a short one. you dont want to push her afternoon one earlier too and then have an OT baby at bedtime.

hi brighton! mornings are still a bit hit and miss... 5.45 this morning . good that your move has improved things!

I tried putting her down a bit earlier for her lunchtime nap and she yelled and fought and then suddenly conked out. so suspect she is actually tired earlier than I've been putting her down, just fighting it with all her might. will see how long she stays asleep for, if she does a good long nap then will stick with the earlier timing

did it work minipie? was the nap a bit longer?

not bad - 1.5 hours and no waking up and having to be resettled in the middle so I will try it again tomorrow...

Hi minipie, this is a useful thread, thanks for starting it - have been wondering the same. I think our DC are similar ages and both preemies. My DS was a really good sleeper until it went completely pear shaped back in May - I'm guessing coinciding with start of weaning, a sleep regression, his first proper virus, neighbour's building work, developments stuff, etc.

I have been trying to do some very gentle sleep training with him for a few weeks now, with moderate success.

What I've learned:

• I overestimated how long he could happily stay awake for, thinking he jut wasn't tired enough - but it's still rarely for more than for 2 hours.
• I underestimated how much sleep a day he seems to need. When I read somewhere that 9-12 months old need around 12-14 hours a day in total I was surprised, but its definitely true that he sleeps better & is happier when he's had about that much.
• If he falls asleep while breastfeeding he often takes ages to settle & only sleeps for 30/40 minutes, but if he is still awake when I put him down he can go for much longer.

So a good day will currently look like this: 6/6.30am wake up, 1st nap 8-9.30am, 2nd nap 12.30-2pm, 3rd nap in the pram 4.30-5pm, bedtime 7pm, asleep by 7.30pm.

What I haven't solved yet:

• How to persuade him that sleeping bags are comfy (or not to kick his blanket off),
• How not to wake up so much at night,
• How to persuade him that other people (DH, DM, MIL) can put him to bed,
• How to prevent the horrible sleep deprivation spiral once he's missed a nap.

If there were any magic solutions I'm sure I'd be too tired to implement them anyway...

DD 9 1/2 months old.

Wakes: 6-8am

Nap: 11 (60-90mins)
Nap: 4 (60-90mins)

Bed: usually asleep by 8.

However her sleep has been awful of late and she has been waking up several times a night.

I tired to stop giving her any milk during the night but she cried from 2am till 3am. So I gave up

Interesting to see the similarities and differences. My DS is just over 9 months.

Wakes usually at 5 and I feed him back to sleep for 1-2 hours if I'm lucky
First nap usually around 8.30 or 9 and tends to sleep for 90 minutes
Second nap about 3 hours after waking from first nap - usually about 1pm and lasts 90 minutes on a good day
Sometimes if the whole day has been 'early' he can be awake from 2pm until his bedtime at 6.30, which is far too long for him I think and makes it hard to settle him at night.
Still wakes up at least once overnight for a breastfeed.

My difficulty is that even with 2 good 90 minute naps he still seems to be quite yawny and aften rubs his eyes, which I presume means he's tired but not quite sure what to do about it, as he really fights a later afternoon nap, even in the pram.

From 2am until 5am I mean.

Before the recent heat wave she slept really well. Now even putting her down for day-time naps are becoming a struggle.

I also can't get her to self-settle, at all.

P.s. I should say that a typical day (as opposed to a good one) looks more like this:

Wake up 5.30am, 1st nap (under protest) at 8.30 for 40 minutes; 2nd nap (under protest) at 12.30 for 40 minutes; 3rd nap in the pram at 4pm for 30 minutes (too tired to protest at that point, but also too tired to sleep); bedtime at 7pm and asleep maybe by 8pm, maybe later, and needing to be settled again after 40 minutes.

I try to follow the 2-3-4 thing, so first nap 2 hrs after waking, the next one 3 hours after that then bed 4 hours later. only difference is I tend to wait 2.5 hrs in the morning instead of 3. works generally to keep overtiredness at bay, so if she wakes up at 2pm with a bad afternoon nap then she goes to bed at 6. She doesnt wake any earlier. obviosly some days this goes completely wrong but 90% of the time it works

My ds is younger at 8 months, but wakes about 7, nap 2 hours later for 40 mins to 1.5 hours then usually again around 1pm. If the am nap was short, then he goes for 1.5 hours, but if it was a long morning nap he'll only do 40 mins pm nap. Babies eh?

Its a long time til bedtime, but he won't have a late pm nap anymore. Am trying to bring bedtime as early as poss, round 6.30.

instead of 2 I meant to say...

thanks everyone! I am tempting fate here but DD does generally sleep through from bedtime till morning (albeit morning is rather earlier than I'd like) so am thinking maybe I shouldn't fiddle around with her naps too much and just accept the current protesting as a phase... Gurke she is getting about 12.5-13 hrs total sleep so it's on the low end but still within that range. She seems to be able to go ages until her first nap, but then not as long at the end of the day. basically she seems more like a 3.5/3.5/3.5 kinda girl rather than 2/3/4...?