just had horrid pick up put down evening

[motherbeing]

please will somebody tell me why I even tried. ds (4 months) is lovely and sleeps from 10 - 6.30 anyway. But I just fancied an evening...

instead dp and I spent the last 3 hours bouncing a screaming baby in and out of cot, when all he really wanted was an extra boob.

Has anyone had success with Tracy Hogg's method/madness?

Why are you doing this motherbeing?

Your baby is too young for sleep training :)

You're right - the moment we decided to 'stop' sleep training, he fell happily to sleep bf and will probably sleep til morning. :)

It's just that 10pm seems late for him to be going to bed and he appears to be tired by about 7pm, but he doesn't seem to be able to stay asleep after I've fed him at 7 - stays in cot for 20 mins then startles awake. Why doesn't he stay asleep?

Motherbeing - your baby is still awake in the evening because at this age he may still need to cluster feed in the evening to see him through the long night ahead.

Many people would bite your hand off to have a 4 month old baby sleeping through from 10pm to 6.30AM! He is doing so well:)

Don'e make his life and your's more stressful than it needs to be while he is so little! There really is nothing to be gained for either of you by attempting sleep training so young, yet so very very much to lose!

thanks mums - that makes me feel better about doing what I was doing - will chuck Hogg book out of window now and go to bed.

Way too young for this.

Aaaargh, just had similar evening - was fooled by dd (8 weeks) into thinking that the fact that she was peacefully zizzing in my arms after a bf @ 8pm meant I could put her in her cot for the night. She normally sleeps 9 - 4 (which is pretty good, I know).

Cue 2 hours of misery for everyone - I went straight in & cuddled, fed her, when she woke up furious at 8.15. Nope. I'd tried to pull a fast one & she was going to make me pay!

I think it must be the cluster feeding thing - probably no point trying to fight it!

oops got sucked back in. ds always has been a cluster feeder so I should have known better than to expect him to skip evening feeds. dp just reminded me that ds and i were joined together bf for hours every evening until about a month ago. He also just reminded me to go to bed!

It all changes SO quickly MB, you WILL get your evenings back, but probably not this summer :)

It's normal for babies to fall asleep and then wake up crying shortly after - both of mine did/do this!

My 8 month old falls asleep at 7 and then wakes up every 30-40 minutes or so until about 9/10 and then goes "down for the night" i.e. sleeping larger stretches, 3-4 hours.

I stay with her most evenings and lie on the bed reading/feeding/cuddling her when she wakes. Soemtimes I pop into the room next door which is my study and grab a chance to do a bit of work. But usually I just read and take a chance to rest myself!

thanks morningpaper - I feel really guilty this morning that we made ds unhappy by something we did consciously. Instead of listening to him and responding to his needs - it seems like we ignored him, no wonder he got upset. :(

Slept until 7 anyway and is now happily having morning nap - what a good boy! All I have to do now is stop giving myself a hard time for trying!

Speaking as one of the arm-biters here, I'd say definitely chuck out the Tracy Hogg! I read it in an evening and started the pupd/feeding every 4 hours the next day, determined to be harsh for my baby's sake. Didn't even last 24 hours. DS was absolutely ravenous and he screamed adn screamed right through his naptime. I decided that Accidental Parenting Rules OK! But the cluster feeding only lasted for another couple of weeks so you're nearly there.