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Would COI/CC work in this situation? (Otherwise known as - help!)

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NellyBluth · 30/08/2012 09:32

7mo DD has generally been a very good sleeper at night (daytime naps are another matter...) but since we've started weaning a few weeks ago she's started waking up crying at about 5am. She doesn't actually want anything: she takes a few sips, maybe half an oz, from a bottle before going back off to sleep for another 2 or 3 hours. She's not starving at breakfast either, she can go half an hour or so before wanting a bottle and only then will take 4 or 5oz.

Now I know this is really good, but before we introduced weaning she was going through until 6.30-7am. This was with a dreamfeed at 10.30, which she started to not want a few weeks back so we dropped it, also as she had a massive growth spurt and the HV thought that the df was quite probably 'extra milk' that she didn't need, the df was taking her up to a good 35oz a day. This coincided with weaning. DD's barely eating any solid food at all (separate issue but she is starting to get the hang of it) but has spontaneously dropped at least a bottle's full of milk a day. We've put the dreamfeed back, dropping the size of the bedtime and df bottles so we're not giving her too much extra milk. The first night she slept till 7, but last night she woke at 4.45. I gave her a tiny bit of milk and she went straight back to sleep, but for some reason woke at 5.30 at the end of the next sleep cycle. She cried for a few minutes - I ignored her, and she went back to sleep.

The big problem is that I am back to work f/t in a few weeks and will be up at 6.30 every day, and I really can't do a 5am wake every day, I won't get home until 6.30 in the evening so I can't really go to bed at 9pm. DP does shift work so its not like we can really share this wake. If it was 2am I think I'd be fine, but just an hour or so before I have to get up anyway is a real killer. I'm only hoping she will sleep until 6, 6.30am.

We've been lucky and not had to do any sleep training yet, so I'm a bit unsure on doing it! I suspect I've made a bit of a rod for my own back (yes, I know, I hate that phrase too Grin) by giving her a little bit of milk when she's unsettled at 5am. Obviously we'll keep going with the df and hope it starts to work consistently, but I wondered whether a few grim nights of letting her cry it out / controlled crying at 5am might fix it. I am pretty certain that DD doesn't actually want anything when she wakes, she's not starving, she's never had a dummy so its not like she wants that. She's just in the habit of being resettled at that time.

Does anyone have any tips or similar experience?

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JiltedJohnsJulie · 30/08/2012 09:37

Don't think you've made a rod for your own back at all. She's hungry, you give her milk, what's the problem with that?

As for the weaning, it quite often disrupts sleep. Make sure that you give her the solids an hour after the milk and when she is 12 months you can start going it the other way around.

If you do it that way for a while she might just start sleeping through again.

NellyBluth · 30/08/2012 09:43

Sorry, jilted, I must not have explained myself properly! She's not hungry. She's only taking a few mouthfuls of milk, and she's not hungry for breakfast when she wakes later either.

Sod's law weaning is coinciding with me returning to work...

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JiltedJohnsJulie · 30/08/2012 11:26

If she is only taking a couple of ounces, then she must be hungry a little? She wouldn't take milk if she wasn't hungry surely?

JiltedJohnsJulie · 30/08/2012 11:28

Oh and there are some good tips in 31 ways to get your baby to sleep and stay asleep Smile.

NellyBluth · 30/08/2012 11:58

She's taking a few sips now, not ounces. I think its a comfort thing, she's using the bottle like other babies would use a dummy - just to suck on for ten seconds, really. (She does the same thing when getting wound up before a nap). Thanks for the link!

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NellyBluth · 30/08/2012 20:42

Shameless bump in case anyone can advise whether or to try CIO tonight... Blush

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fififrog · 30/08/2012 21:26

It could be that the timing is a coincidence. My DD has gone through phases of waking at, say, 4.30 but I have usually struggled to get her back to sleep when she's in one of those phases - milk certainly didn't help much though she was(is!) breast fed so a bit more disruption to feed her maybe if you are able to feed her in the cot (not sure how bottle feeding works as you can tell!).

All I can say is that given nothing got her back to sleep (Inc bringing into bed), we tried CC and it was a disaster, so we had to resort to CIO really. Which did sort of help after a few days. I should add she was never really upset, more whingeing that she had woken. Big caveat here: if feeding had worked, I would have stuck with it but as it didn't I decided to drop the last "night" feed the first time this happened.

Good luck - as I say, I haven't really found anything that works reliably in the early morning. It is a killer to be woken an hour before morning isn't it. I rarely get back to sleep.

NellyBluth · 30/08/2012 21:38

I know, its that hour, isn't it - I do tend to go back to sleep eventually but quite honestly I think it makes me feel worse than if I just stayed awake!

I've got a horrible feeling that CC won't work as the moment she sees something interesting she snaps awake Sad - bringing her to bed has nearly always been the worst thing we ever do, the change of scenery is far too stimulating...

Hope you're getting more sleep now!

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