would it be really really bad to ties my dts to their beds?

[MamaChocoholic]

And if so, how the fuck can I persuade them to stay put?

They are 22 months, in beds because they were climbing out of cots. So I spend an hour or more sat between their beds in the dark, grabbing each as they make a run for it, and putting them back to bed. Which they find hilarious. Bedtime routine changed when we got beds as I am no longer feeding to sleep, but first week of beds they were asleep by 730. Now it's nearer nine. They're still up before 6, so getting increasingly tired and grumpy. As am I.

Ties = tie.

Gaffer tape might work?

Hang in there, they will get the message. Have you tried moving bedtime back slightly to see if it helps? Do you do the whole 'winding down' routine so they know it is bedtime?

Would they get the idea of stickers for staying in bed?

Think too young for stickers. Evening routine is tea, upstairs to get ready for bed, back down for 10th mins tv, then milk, stories and bed. Have been moving bedtime later thinking they might not be tired, but now realising they are overtures. Are you suggesting move it earlier?

Velcro?

Overtures = overtired. Not very predictive text and using my phone on low light in dark room. Grr.

Velcro could be good. Bungy rope too, perhaps?

i'd cut the TV time or make it before you take them upstairs, give them the message it's time to go to bed rather than get upstairs, then back down for nice TV prog then back upstairs

can you tuck thrm in really tightly ie duvet tucked under edge of mattress?! tbh i think you are just going to have to do what you are doing. rapid return and be very boring.

In our case I just left him to it in his room with thedoor shut. I went back when he cried or at about 15 minute intervals, butputting him back in bed just became a game and took ages.

Hmm, it's an odd order, I agree. Have a 4 year old too, and this way he gets himself ready for bed quickly cos he wants to watch tv. Otherwise he dawdles and I'm in and out trying to get him ready at the same time as them, which was quite disruptive. He's older now though, perhaps worth trying to switch.

Jelly, I do have to stay because they are in a biting phase, and dd has enough bruises from ds2. Plus I think it gets more exciting if I leave, as they have each other. Am at point where I would happily leave them to cry in their own if they were singletons!

Absolutely no help here, but I was very close to designing Velcro sheets and PJ's when DS1 moved into a bed.

He did get it eventually. Any way you could split them for a bit to get them used to going to sleep in bed without you there but no biting risk? So I guess DD in with DS1, and the biter on his own?

I had to put 20MO Baby Goo in a bed on holiday. After the first day and 3hours of 'put her back in, bed' hilarity On the second day i put her in, made sure therewas nothing she could hurt herself on, and held the door shut.

She tried it twice, and then got in bed.

In the cot she gets the message that she has to sleep, so I recreated the 'prison effect' in the room. It sounds mean, but it worked in about 5 mins and she didn't get distressed.

I really don't know what to suggest when they have a partner in crime though? Stagger the bedtimes?

different bedrooms?

Different bedrooms only possible if we put one in with ds1, and they still wake a lot in the night, so can't do that.

By some miracle they are asleep already. Only 65 minutes. Am going to have to hope the novelty will wear off.

Ignore! Even if it means sitting outside their room with a book/phone/headphones.

My dcs share a room, and DS went into a bed at 16m due to climbing out of his cot. We have a stairgate on the door, and often have to go up for various reasons, but when they are playing up I sit at the top of the stairs and ignore them. The fact I'm there makes my DD stay in bed, then DS gets bored and gets into his bed.

It is soul destroying though, that time of night when everyone is tired and needing to rest and the kids playing up can just push you over the edge!

Staggered bedtimes and separate rooms is the only thing that works for me. Must be hard with twins.

Could you put DS1 in your bedroom to sleep just until the twins are settled in their routine?

Can you stagger bedtimes or stick one in your bed until asleep and then carry through?

Other than that, stand in the room and insist on deathly quiet and no movements and employ use of the death stare (must be so potent that it practically glows in the dark) and sufficient threats. If they fidget or move (more than just changing position, scratching an itch etc) or make any noise start counting to 3. You can restart rather than carrying on if they start again.