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six week old takes ages to settle after a feed, grunting and choking noises when laid flat?

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used2bthin · 01/08/2012 04:04

I am feeling desperate as we are having some terrible nights recently. It took more than two hours to get her back in the crib last night and tonight I have been going an hour.

She is alseep on me then when I put her down she wakes briefly then settles and goes back to sleep, I lie down and start dropping off then the noises start. Grunting and gurgling then if I leave her, choking spluttering ones till I pick her up. sometimes she is sick sometimes not. When I kift her she goes back to sleep on me immediately most of the time. OH ALSO SHE'LL BE CHEWING HER FISTS sometimes then when lifted out won't ;atch on.

Its driving me mad, I have a five yr old with SN and days are full on.

Just raised the crib but no difference so far, any ideas? She is in a gro bag and should be about right temperature wise. Seems to sleep better in my bed but a, not keen on that all the time.

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Cydonia · 01/08/2012 04:21

Hi, my DS is similar (10 weeks ), though it's not all the time. Seems worse in the early morning, he makes so much noise grunting and wriggling but quite often when I get up to him his eyes are shut and if left he sometimes goes back to sleep. I also have raised the end of the cot, then got a sleep positioner wedge which maybe helped a bit. He's certainly not sick ( or is it possetting? ) as much now. I also asked the doctor for some infant gaviscon as he had other signs of silent reflux, ie crying after feeding, hiccups, drooling, gnawing on his fists and noisy breathing. I'm not convinced it really helped, plus it's hard to give in the middle of the night if you are EBF.
I think he might have got slightly better with age, but can't really offer any decent advice I'm afraid! Going to watch this thread with interest though for some tips.

dappply · 01/08/2012 06:40

He's probably still asleep and making the noises in his sleep. It'll pass, and soon. Make sure he's winded after a feed, including bicycling his legs and bringing his knees up to his chest (google fart aerobics), but beyond that buy some earplugs and wait for him to grow out of it.

CagneyNLacey · 01/08/2012 06:48

My ds is like this, he has reflux and the antacid medicine he's been prescribed seems to have alleviated it, together with the usual stuff like a pillow under the mattress, gentle winding and keeping him upright for fifteen mins or so after a feed.

I f eel for you, it's absolutely shattering isn't it? Hope it gets better soon.

CagneyNLacey · 01/08/2012 06:56

Oh and he has smaller feeds a bit more often, iyswim, which also seems to have helped.

used2bthin · 01/08/2012 08:16

Thanks, sorry ended up putting her in with me. My older daughter had reflux but it was very very severe so I hadn't really associated this with the same thing,but maybe it is she takes aaages to bring wind up too.
Fart aerobics!!! I did baby massage with dd1 and they taught the bicycling legs thing, will try it.

I can't ignore it iyswim because she starts choking if left and has then been sick a few times. I will spend more time winding her though.

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Purplehonesty · 01/08/2012 08:26

My 5 wk old dd is like this. She can't be put down to sleep on her back or she does this all night. Ds was exactly the same.

I roll up a blanket and put her on her side with the blanket behind her. Then tuck her in with another one.
She will sleep for hours like this and never makes a peep but put her on her back and she is sick/chokes/coughs/snorts all night.

I know it's not recommended but she seems so much more comfy.

Cydonia · 01/08/2012 08:33

I know what you mean, I couldn't ignore DS at first as was worried he was choking on what he was bringing up. I think it was reflux and he was bringing stuff up and then swallowing it. I think he just grew out of it as though he is still noisy and grunty he doesn't splutter and choke the same any more. From what I've been told on her on my all my paranoid new mum posts it takes a while for the valve into the stomach to start working properly so it will leak at first and let acid and stomach contacts back up. So hopefully it will get better for you soon!

MyDogShitsMoney · 01/08/2012 08:41

DS was exactly the same.

What worked for him was Infant Gaviscon and propping the moses basket up quite steeply.

Hope you find something that works for you soon it really is horrible to hear them like that.

Wheresmycaffeinedrip · 01/08/2012 09:37

Is your baby ff or bf? My dd2 was just like this always grunting and squirming and it stopped when I got her put on s pepti formula for milk intolerance. Perhaps you could cut out dairy see if it helps?

used2bthin · 02/08/2012 04:49

Thanks all.purplehonesty i walked past sleep positioners in tk max yesterday, should have got one! that would probably do the same thing, very temptedd to go back for one.

dd has just slept SIX hours!! dh took her downstairs at ten after I was exhausted by trying to get her into the crib from 7pm but this happening. He brought her up at 4 and she is now feeding. So I have no idea how he kept her asleep so long will ask tomorrow. In fact I don'i kn ow what time she went to sleep but 6 hours is the longest she has gone without a feed ever and the most sleep i've had in months.

mydog, thanks. T he crib is propped up but I will tell the doctor about it and see if they think she needs gaviscon. DD1 had it and ranetidine which helped but not till she was 7monthsso i am keen to sort it.

wheres my caffiene she is bf but I have started expressing so can get gaviscon into her like that maybe. Funnily enough I was intolerent to milk as a child and had soya milk till I was five. I still get ill ifI have too much cream or if I eat ice cream or yogurt so it may well be worth a try-wonder how long I woukd have to do it to see if it made a difference?

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Wheresmycaffeinedrip · 02/08/2012 07:42

It would probably be around two weeks ish til it was all out your system BUT 40% of babies intolerant to milk are also intolerant to soya so if there's no difference that might be why you might end up having to cut Soya too but before start cutting out both I would speak to a dr/ dietician as although cutting out dairy is pretty easy cutting out soya aswell makes it a little harder but almond milk would be a good source of calories etc which u need to produce the milk. It may or may not make a difference but for the sake of two of three weeks it
may be worth trying cos its gotta be better than drs throwing medication at them :( drs seem to never think of allergies they go
straight to colic and reflux and forget that milk is the biggest child and
adult onset allergy and that it's responsible for many a gastric symptom x

Wheresmycaffeinedrip · 02/08/2012 07:49

Maybe worth trying a food diary too so you can see if there'd any correlation between what you have eaten and the severity of symptoms. The change in my dd was instant with the first bottle but I did struggle to get any health professional to listen to me. This may br tmi but her poos were also a give away they were green really string almost acidic in smell they pretty much burnt her little bottom and she always had trouble going it wasn't constipation the dr gave her movical she was just forever grunting and straining. It was two weeks before the pooing was sorted but everything else was instant. Her skin less dry her eyes stopped being gunky etc. She would also only sleep on her tummy. If any of this sounds familia then it's certainly possible for your dd too :(

used2bthin · 02/08/2012 12:15

thanks been told to get infacol and come back to see the GP if no improvement. Yes she wasnt keen on the idea of cutting dairy but i may do i think just to see- i get reflux myself so it may help me.

she has gunky eyes too and dry skin so you never know! poos are fine though.

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Wheresmycaffeinedrip · 03/08/2012 09:45

It can't hurt x don't know why your gp is so against you cutting out dairy, what you eat is your business and IMO it's far better to try something that won't harm your baby or have any side effects first before they dose the poor thing up on a million different reflux/colic meds :( colic is always the number one go to thing for drs and many babies suffer needlessly as a result of their failure to think of any thing else :( bf babies f far less likely to get colic and lactose intolerance/ cows milk protein allergy is actually surprisingly common.

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