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6MONTH OLD HATES GOING TO SLEEP.

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GEM33 · 02/06/2012 18:26

This might turn out to be a long post. so apologies in advance. I have posted a few times about my DD sleep but just want some advice/an outsiders observations please.
SHORT VERSION IS THE LAST PARAGRAPH!!

DD is just over 6 months, first child (oh the mistakes i have already made) and breast fed and taking little bit of food (we started baby led but i now offer bit of puree/porridge each meal time with finger foods).

My DD is EXTREMELY alert. Everyone comments on how alert she is for her age and forward (trying to crawl and said mama already - held her head up since birth, sat up alone 4 months old- doesn't miss a trick -has been here before). She is still in our room in a cot attached to our bed.

My problem is that I am now starting to realise the error of my ways in not having put her down awake to sleep and always putting her on the breast to sleep. Also, boob isnt always enough to get her to sleep. Now, she is starting to wake at the end of every sleep cycle. She is still having at least 3 feeds a night although I am starting to doubt she needs these feeds now. And she constantly wakes between 5am and 530am.

She used to have a good 2-3 hour afternoon nap which is now cut down to 45 mins/an hour and the 3rd nap of the day which she needs as she is exhausted is an absolute battle to get her to sleep at all but she really needs it otherwise she is so grumpy and overtired for bed time. I only want her to have a little nap but like today, I spent from 4 til 545 trying to get her to nap which is ridiculous. in the end we had to take her in the car.

So with all these sleep issues we decided to do the sleep training thing, putting her down awake, but staying in the room with her - the first night she cried for 45 minutes but i was quite surprised she dropped off. in the night i stopped jumping to her at the slightest murmer (first time parents eh!) andi was amazed that she re settled herself a few times and at the 530 wake up after 7 minutes crying she fell back to sleep. the second night though, i couldnt keep her awake to put her down so i really messed up and so on the 3rd night she bloody screamed the house down for over an hour and sobbed in her sleep for an hour (i realise i wasnt consistant on the 2nd night which caused this)-at which point i decided i could absolutely not cope with the leaving to cry method and swore i would do whatever she wanted to get her to sleep without crying but this now seems unavoidable because as i say the boob doesnt work as often to get her to sleep.

i know she can self settle because i put her down in the morning nap and she drops off with little crying, its just the rest of the time. and ALL THE night wakings!!i think the few nights we tried the sleep training has left her feeling insecure - understandably so now there is no chance of her self settling in the night because she just cries until she gets us (has started to wriggle over to me now as well the last couple of days).

***i just want to hear from people who have older babies maybe that were similar /had problems night wakings etc and did you do sleep training, or did they just learn themselves how to settle and eventually sleep through (i think i would cut my right arm off for a whole nights sleep at this stage).
Do you think my baby just doesnt need 12 hours sleep at night (bed time try for 7 but never get there usually between8-10pm with 3-6 wakings and up at 530-7).
should i go back to the sleep training, do you think putting her in her own room and cot would help? dreading doing this, just dont want any more crying!!!

thanks for your time reading this!

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Iggly · 05/06/2012 08:34

DS and DD were and are not babies who can just drift off when tired. Especially with both having silent reflux.

I've found a dummy helpful for naps and bedtime as the sucking keeps stuff down.

Also no dairy if she's on solids. Or soya. Or citrus (inc tomatoes).

Dd sleeps better if I put her down on her left hand side or tummy. I've also found she's quite wriggly at bedtime when she has wind (both ends). I also found that sometimes its like she needs peace to sleep, so I put her in the cot and stroke her back/reassure with my voice and sometimes she'll relax and drift off.

Best thing for reflux though was cutting out dairy, soya etc etc. chocolate was a bad one too :( I did it with DS but it's temporary so I find it easier second time around.

pigsmightnevercease · 05/06/2012 12:05

To (hopefully) reassure you further that things will get better, DS has just yelled 'Mummy! GO BED!' and climbed up the stairs for naptime, saying 'bye bye' to DH as he went.

I honestly never thought I'd see the day that this child would ask to nap Shock Grin

GEM33 · 05/06/2012 17:20

Pigs, Thanks soooo much for posting, it is so good to hear that things might just sort themselves out. . .
i have got worried they she wouldnt settle at night ever because this has gone on for the last 3 months and i kept thinking its just a phase then i got panicked thinking, i have to go back to work in another 3 months and what if she still isnt sleeping more by then (i dont mind feeding her once or twice through the night but every hour would finish me off if working as well).
like you say about the crawling thing, i can see she has so much pent up energy wanting to move but not knowing how yet so maybe this will help burn her out.
your sunny little dude sounds lovely and just like my sunny dudette!! -hope she follows his sleep pattern...
its so good to get support from people like yourselves. it helps me think positively. its def hard to stay positive when you are so bloody knackered. (and bickering with your partner - we took her for a walk in the pram for her afternoon nap and 30 mins in a tractor went right past us and stopped by the side of the pram for a few seconds and carried on - she woke up and we both started blaming the other for choosing that route to go on huffed and puffed at each other all the way home!! its quite funny now she is finally napping again and we have had a cuppa and a chat and read your posts!!).

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GEM33 · 05/06/2012 17:38

super link btw, read high need baby thing, sounds just like dd....i think her mum could come under that description too!!

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PestoPenguin · 05/06/2012 19:41

Here's another link you might find useful OP, it's about research & evidence into infant sleep.

FWIW your DD sounds pretty normal to me Smile

PestoPenguin · 05/06/2012 19:51

Here's another link you might find useful OP, it's about research & evidence into infant sleep.

FWIW your DD sounds pretty normal to me Smile

pigsmightnevercease · 05/06/2012 19:59

Glad it was helpful Grin

Also agree with the poster who suggested joining the high needs baby thread. I was on a long-running series of threads for about six months when DS was tiny (have namechanged now). There were about 10 of us with non-sleeping babies, all having a good old whinge sharing our experiences. It got me through some tough times knowing I wasn't the only one struggling.

NiceCupOfTeaAndASitDown · 05/06/2012 22:44

Ooh ooh just remembered something! I've done baby signing with DS since 6 months, he started signing back at 9 months. For ages I didn't bother with the sign for sleep because I thought "what's the point? He never bloody naps when I take him to bed!" - anyway for some reason I started doing the sign for sleep (1 or 2 hands on side of head whilst leaning head towards hand) around 13 months at bedtime and before attempting to put DS for a nap (I'd say something like "nap time" or "let's go to bed/sleep") and a little while after doing this he started 'asking' for naps! He's still a nightmare to get down at night and doesn't often nap when I want him to but 9 times out of 10 he will actually tell me he's tired, and will often fall asleep very quickly.

I'd really recommend signing for high needs babies, it reduces a lot of frustration on both sides and I read somewhere that if you give your child a way of telling you they're tired at the times you 'put them down' for a nap, they start to recognise the feeling and often let you know.

I'm off to check out the high needs thread now. Can't believe I forgot that tip! Hope something works for you!

GEM33 · 06/06/2012 21:31

nicecupof tea, thanks for the tip, we have been watching the oxbridge baby dvd for learning to talk since birth (not a pushy parent at all!). and there is a lot of signing in that and she knows certain animals etc by sign so i'll start doing the sleep sign. (it may end up the hands in the air give up sign!!).
im prob the most tired in a long time, i am pretty sure she is on a growth spurt last 2 days as EATING non stop and had really good feeds every 1-2 hours last 2 nights. i dont mind her waking when you know she needs it but for the last 3 months im pretty sure its just a comfort suck in the night.
i'll check out the high need baby site.....its really comforting to know there are so many other babies like her and its not something we have done wrong, alot of our friends and family with babies seem to be judging us and coming out with the well, you'll have to leave her to cry comments and they just dont know my baby and leaving her to cry just doesnt work.

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