Do you think over tiredness is making ds wake 430-5am?

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Sorry, too tired to post articulate message. Can't even remember how longs he has been doing it for (13mo). I can cope with night wakings if he sleeps until at least 6am but at the moment he is doing both. His bed time has been creeping later and later (from 7 to 8 recently) and naps have been erratic since starting nursery, so I'm wondering...

No advice, but we are having the same with DS 18 months. It's crap isn't it?

How thick are your curtains? Are they waking when the sun rises? DS had an early waking phase cured by a blackout blind!

It's possible. Certainly was like that with my DD. Is he having one or two naps on the days he's at home? That's how we got through it - weekends were her recovery times where she had two naps in the day and a longer nighttime sleep. She still wakes up at 5 now (at22 months) but goes back to sleep after I adjust her covers to make sure she's warm.

My sister claims sleep breeds sleep, and I think she may have a point, I would try to ensure a day time nap, and an earlier bedtime. At least that way you will be more ready to cope with an earlier morning. You have my sympathies DS1 was an earlier waker for what seemed like forever. He's now a teenager, and has only just emerged despite needing to leave for his bus very soon. It doesn't last forever.

Wow I've had the same and last night put a towel over my window and this morning she's just woken up!

Thanks guys. I do have blackout blinds but they let in light round the sides, so tonight we are going to tape them and put ds to bed earlier. I can cope with night time feeds better than early morning wake-ups - I stagger through the day and just crave bed, which isn't great for my relationship. Babies eh!

Oooh.

We have blackout blinds that let light in round the edges. I parcel taped the edges last night and we got a whole extra hour sleep out of DS! Brilliant!

Bed when tired. Try earlier if happy to go to sleep, but I've always found later works better in summer and the best blackout you can do.

Have you considered just leaving your DS when he wakes in the night? My DS is a terrible sleeper and I always went to him in the night to get him back to sleep (he would also wake early). I'm really soft and hated the thought of him being alone and crying in bed, but I just got to the stage when I couldn't take anymore and I just left him...tough love and all that. Well anyway the first night he cried for 40 mins, second night 30 mins and the third less than a min, each time he took himself back to sleep and actually slept till 7am! I've been told that it takes 3 days to make a change and so far he's sleeping much better.

So although I hated just leaving him, it's worked out the best thing for all of us. I obviously wouldn't do this with a young/sick baby.