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Someone help me - amazing non sleeping baby!

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rickman · 09/02/2006 09:21

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suzywong · 09/02/2006 09:38

hi rickman

sorry that he's keeping you up

I used to be a staunch advocate of co-sleeping, did it with ds1 and ds2, with ds2 till he was 18 months then after all the antics you describe, especially the face prodding, I just gave up. So I don't have a practical answer for you, but I just think there comes an age when maybe they want to sleep alone. Sob

Angeliz · 09/02/2006 09:39

Will watch this with interest as my dd is 11 months and started doing the same a few nights ago (we co-sleep too) . I was wondreing wheteher it's time to put her back into cot when she's sound. sniff!!

rickman · 09/02/2006 10:13

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suzywong · 09/02/2006 10:16

Ah, now there's the rub

first child we had to pay a sleep counsellor to do it
second child dh moved in with him in bed, he didn't pull dh's nose in the middle of the night, and then he went straight on the bottom bunk at 2.2yrs

sorry

lazycow · 09/02/2006 10:20

Hi Rickman

I had this problem with ds (still do very occasionally) but it started with us at about 4-5 months old. As he got older the time he stayed awake just got longer. I'm not sure we ever solved it really (as opposed to it resolving itself). However I did find that after 1-2 hrs or whatever it was of him poking, climbing etc (this was on top of the 2-3 feeds a night he had) I just started putting him in his cot and to my amazement he often was quiet for a while and went to sleep. He also slept longer there.

He was like this from a very early age though so despite my trying co-sleeping from 4 months to about 6/7 months old, I realised that he slept worse if anything with me.

I also believe he was overtired so once he woke up he had trouble getting back to sleep then got more tired - a vicious circle so to speak.

I worked on his daytime naps and put him to bed early to help him catch up on sleep. It took a while but he definitely improved.

He was always put to bed in his cot but I used to bring him into bed when he woke up (if it was after about 11pm)so he was used to the cot.

You say you are are co-sleeping, what time does your ds go to bed? Has he ever used a cot for naps etc?.

He is now much better though I wouldn't say he is a great sleeper still. In an average week he sleeps 7-5am without a wake-up about 3-5 times though 5am/5.30m is pretty much when he wakes. The other nights he wakes maybe onnce but only for about 30mins or so and feed gets him asleep again.

Muc better than it was

This morning we had a 4.30 wake-up though and he stayed awake until about 6am then fell into a doze for about 30mins than was up at 6.30am. He was however looking really tired at 8am.

I have a feeling that this because we have been cutting back on his day naps a bit to try and get him to sleep longer in the morning and it has backfired a bit and he is now overtired. He seems really sensitive to sleep and needs 'just the right amount' otherwise he gets completely wired - difficult to work out sometimes.

leogaela · 09/02/2006 12:48

Rickman, I've just started reading a book that has a case sounding exactly like yours. The problem was that the child was sleeping too mcuh during the day so at night wasn't tired enough to sleep through.
How much is your ds sleeping during the day? Could it be the problem?

I dont know much about co-sleeping, ds does sometimes sleep with us and the description of being climbed on, poked in the eye.... sounds very familiar!

surreynanny · 09/02/2006 16:45

I think at this age it may help to try and stop the night time feeds. I don't know if you are breast or bottle feeding but I would only be offering water during the night as he may well be waking as his tummy is saying that it's food time although he is quite old enough now to manage without night time feeds. I think I would also be inclined to place him in his cot if he is disturbing every ones sleep, giving him the option to lie down and go back to sleep with you(if you like him with you) or to go and play in his cot but that it is night time and that you are all going to sleep now.
You might also consider using "pick up, put down" if you wish him to move into his own bed now. Don't know if this is any help to you, hope you find your routine again soon : )

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rickman · 09/02/2006 22:31

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SweetPotato · 09/02/2006 23:44

I have the same problem with dd and it is just killing me. At her last Paed's appointment it was brought up - I think he noticed I was looking like shit and her lack of sleep is the reason why. We talked about sedation as a last resort because he said that he understands I can't go on like this indefinitely. I don't like the idea as it sounds a bit much, but three months on she is getting worse and worse so I am considering it. I know my mum actually had to do this with me eventually because I just didn't sleep either. Maybe worth discussing with your doctor if you have tried everything else? I am still thinking about it!

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