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Awful nights with 6 mth old - need creative ideas on how to survive this!

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kayjayel · 14/04/2012 04:09

I desperately need some ideas to improve DS2's sleep. He is nearly 6 mths. After some reasonable-ish newborn sleep (once 5 hrs in a chunk) up to about 12 weeks, he then dropped that for a more common 2 hrly snack feed.

I was being very relaxed about the frequent wakes/feeds - cosleeping safely, feeding whenever, assuming it would sort itself out at some point. But his wakings have increased and for the past month it has become constant feeding. Often with a poo in the night due to so much milk.

The problem for at least the past week or so is that he will only 'sleep' while feeding, and if I detach him he wakes within 10-30 mins (sometimes I get a magic 45 mins). At least twice a night he does a weird thing where he latches on and off, as if he's gone off me, but if I take the option of feeding away (e.g. cuddle or rock him) he screams. A typical night is:

8pm fed to sleep
8.45pm wake, only feeding will get him back to sleep (rocking/cuddling, someone else etc/ bottle = screaming A LOT)
Sometimes 1 hr sleep after re-settling
Then I come to bed and he feeds on and off throughout the night. I rarely check the time (as it makes me feel worse), but had to last night and I saw every hour. Any attempt to detach from me leads to broken heart screaming.
Wakes happy and lovely for the day around 7am.

Tonight we had the added bonus of a 3am massive poo.

I don't know if its connected but for the last 2 months almost all his poos have been fairly green. Some more green than others, but very very rare to have a yellow one. He also flinches and jerks a bit in his sleep as if in discomfort - could this be all the milk? But if I don't offer milk he screams.

He is of course teething, but having calpol makes no difference to the sleep, and he is very happy and lovely in the day. In the morning he usually has a long nap (in a rocking chair) of 2-3 hrs. This doesn't work at night.

So please anyone can you give me some ideas of what to do. I have some support next week from DP to regain some naps for me, and recover, but I need things to improve a bit (my very modest goal would be to get 2 hour chunks of sleep again!), as I have to manage two other DC, and back to work.

I won't do CC or CIO.
I did have No Cry Sleep Solution (for other two horrendous sleepers!), and I've been doing the pull off technique with no effect - I can get him off me using it, but he just roots around about 5-10mins later. This is obviously very annoying if I've just dropped off.
Does anyone have any creative ideas about what may be the problem, and what I could do to slightly improve things? My expectations of sleep with a baby were very low, I thought by cosleeping and going with his needs I would be able to cope, and I am doing fine with frequent feeds, but the constant feeding and on-off latching, and pooing at night is not sleep!

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Fevrier · 16/04/2012 09:28

Use the buggy in the house when you have to be out.

kayjayel · 16/04/2012 11:08

Its really reassuring to hear your progress, especially as I do know it will improve. The other two night weaned about 9-10 mths, so I'm hoping he will too. I can cope with cuddles in the night. I just got a bit of work that means I will have to let DP do one night a week, so at least for that week DS will have to cope somehow! I'll try more in the buggy as he seems to suddenly love it!

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Bet01 · 16/04/2012 11:34

Daisy I'm not going to flame you but I'm in the same boat as the OP and like her, my DS didn't feed to sleep early on, went in his bedside cot and slept there for at least 3 or 4 hours until he was about 12 weeks old. He then decided he wanted to feed round the clock, and I mean at least every hour, all night. Nothing had changed, he decided this all by himself. The only way to cope with it is to co-sleep, otherwise I think you'd crack up through exhaustion. So while I agree that perpetuates the behaviour, it isn't the cause.
It caused me a bit of a wry smile when you say you've never had these problems because of your routine. IMHO it's purely down to luck!

loveisagirlnameddaisy · 16/04/2012 13:59

I've had plenty of problems and I'd hate to sound remotely smug here. That's not my intention and I've really struggled with motherhood. We had a really challenging first year but from the start I tried to avoid feeding to sleep and bringing my DD into bed with me because of all the stuff I'd read. Maybe it is luck, not routine, but things only improved for us when we introduced a routine.

OlivesTree · 16/04/2012 13:59

We were going through a similar problem until I found this thread...
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/sleep/1394888-What-worked-for-us-Hope-this-helps
Changed MY LIFE! It seemed that once our DD learned to put herself to sleep in the evening every thing else (night wakings/naps etc) improved too.
I also bought the Millpond sleep book called Teach Your Child to Sleep which I believe is where the method in the thread comes from. It has lots of sleep solutions for all sorts of different problems.

Fevrier · 16/04/2012 16:52

Did your other two night wean themselves? (sliver of hope)

kayjayel · 16/04/2012 19:02

Fevrier - yes they dropped all night feeds wth no real intervention! I did offer a cuddle/pat first, then fed if they wouldn't settle, after a while they seemed ok with no feed. I just can't remember how I did this! With DC1 I had more input from DP, so that may have helped. DD was generally less into milk at night. But yes, they were off night milk before daymilks, and I stopped feeding in the day about 10 mths. So there is hope!

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Mombojombo · 17/04/2012 22:04

Just thought I'd update on progress (recap for those who can't be faffed to read back in the thread: DS 7mo boob obsessed, feeding hourly at night, cot next to me, 1-bed flat so no other room for him).

Night 1: me on sofa, DH on settling duty. Lots of crying but DH always there for cuddles. DH ended up with DS in bed with him BUT only one (!!!!) feed at 3am. DS definitely didn't show signs of hunger even though he was angry I wasn't around.

Night 2: me on sofa again. Less crying and settled in cot with tummy stroking more than cuddles. Only 1 big cry; but NO (zero!!!) night feeds.

Night 3: me in bed but opposite side to normal. DH still on settle duty. Not a peep from DS 7pm-2am. Could.Not.Believe.It. He woke 2-3am but wasn't upset, just wanted to practice blowing raspberries in the dark for an hour. NO night feeds!

Night 4: just started. Same positions as night 3. Fingers crossed!

In the last 3 days DS has also taken himself off the boob and turned away to sleep for 2 of his naps. Again, unheard of until now.

Honestly, I wouldn't have believed it if you'd told me a week ago that this could happen. If you have a brilliantly supportive DH who's due a not-very-busy week at work, and you want to reduce night feeds, decamp to 'away from baby' for a couple of nights & see what happens.

I'm by no means saying problem solved. Teething, illness & genuine hunger will of course be catered for at mama's buffet, but I'm really happy with the way things are going.

kayjayel · 18/04/2012 14:24

mombojombo - THANKS for posting that! It gives me hope! Unfortunately DS is now ill, hot and feverish, so no immediate plans, but airing things here has helped me feel less alone and given me more clarity.

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