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15 week old not sleeping on his own

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littletomato · 20/02/2012 08:14

Warning: long message. to summarize, my son is 15 weeks, & he's never slept for long without being held. So he's never gone "to bed".

I suppose this happened from a combination of reflux and being born 5 weeks early - in the beginning he took so long to FF (jaundice, poor suck, etc.) that he'd take up to two hours to feed, then he'd need to be held upright because of the reflux, then he'd soon have to feed again. so we just held him constantly, taking shifts during the night.

As he started to thrive a bit more, he still wouldn't sleep if he was set down in his cot (which is angled upright for reflux) - he'd either wake up immediately, or he'd get stressed and milk would start coming out of his nose, or he'd vomit, etc. I tried building a cosy nest out of blankets, but that didn't work.
so we continued to hold him.

At 3 months actual (to the day), he became a bit more independent. He could happily kick around in his cot for a good 10 minutes even if we weren't right there.
We were even able to put him on his tummy and after a while he was able to sleep for stretches like that, until once he refluxed out of his nose and couldn't breathe so we decided not to try that anymore. He's fairly strong, but he can't roll yet.

He is starting to sleep for longish stretches in the night (in our arms). He's created his own routine of sleeping from around 6 until midnight and then again until 3am (which is when i wake up for my shift and when he seems to wake up for the day). He usually takes a nap in the late morning and cluster feeds throughout the afternoon. Occasionally I can get him to sleep for about 30 minutes in a bouncy chair, which was a miracle when it first happened a couple of weeks ago.

Despite having to put up with all sorts of reflux misery, he's really a happy sweet baby. And we can almost manage the schedule of staying up with him in shifts, even if it's straining our marriage resources. but it would just be nice for him to actually go into some sort of bed and stay there for a few hours. And it would be nice to sleep in the same bed as my husband.

So, not sure what to do now. Is there something that will help him eventually transition into sleeping? I'm a FTM so maybe I am expecting too much? Still, it seems that other people have little babies who actually lie down in a bed and sleep - even if only for a couple of hours.

I haven't tried co-sleeping; this may work as he seems to be comforted by closeness. And now that he's less tiny, it doesn't seem as scary. Is that the thing to do? Where do I start?

Oh dear. Sorry to write so much.

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milkysmum · 20/02/2012 08:23

My little one was like this in the early weeks but now at 20 weeks is sleeping well in his cot. He won't really settle himself to sleep yet 9which is what we were trying to let him do) but is happy we feed/ hold him till falls asleep then very gently pop him in his cot. He do had reflux which now seems to have gone. I think all babies are diffrent so hard to know what will work best for yours. Co sleeping may help ( didn't do this so can't really advise on this) but i know lots of people on here have and am sure will be along soon with some good suggetions. It will get better I'm sure. :)

littletomato · 20/02/2012 08:44

thanks milkysmum, it's always good to know that others have gone through the same thing.

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Littlemissnegative · 20/02/2012 18:02

Littletomato can I just say you and your DH are doing an amazing job of working together take care of your little one under quite difficult circumstances, hats off to you! I'm afraid I have never done the co sleeping thing but I know other people that do it, some love it and others really resent it but I think thats because their DC are older and more wriggly! It's a matter of personal choice really. What I did with DCs 1 and 3 (DC2 was an exceptionally contented baby so rarely needed help going to sleep) was to put them in their Moses basket/cot awake then stroked their face/hair held their hand until they went to sleep, I gradually decreased the amount of time comforting them but just sit by them shushing and occasionally patting them, then after a while I'd sit by them but not do anything unless absolutely necessary then I'd move the chair further away until I got to the stage of putting them down and leaving the room. The whole stage probably took at least a month but I couldn't leave them to cry but neither did I want to co sleep, I wouldn't get any sleep and DH is such a heavy sleeper I'd worry he'd crush them! Just a suggestion but no miracle cures I'm afraid! Good luck.

littletomato · 20/02/2012 19:32

thank you littlemissnegative (hardly an appropriate username in this case!); your encouragement brought a tear to my eye. i think the stress/sleep deprivation is getting to me!
i did just see the bumped post from earlier about that method. we will give it a try. i'm not sure he can yet be soothed from afar if he doesn't get picked up, he kind of becomes frantic, and then refluxy, which can then set off a few hours of agitation but his "independence" seems to improve a little bit each day, so maybe he'll grow into this method. it could be the right way to go.

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owl13 · 06/03/2012 04:15

Littletomato, I'm in a very similar boat. Because of stomach pain which lasted most of the first 5 weeks of dc's life, dc won't sleep unless held upright, or very occasionally (3 times so far) in a car seat. Have tried pram, travel cot and Moses basket and nothing works. So we also do the holding in shifts thing. Cosleeping not an option for us. So I have no advice for you I'm afraid, but am very interested in any you get.

TanteRose · 06/03/2012 04:24

We co-slept - it can be a life-saver in so many ways, as long as you do it safetly

read this link from Dr Sears and remember to click for the next page (at the bottom)

BranchingOut · 06/03/2012 06:13

Wow, you are pretty amazing parents to be holding him in shifts.

Just a few ideas:

Baby massage for relieving stomach discomfort
Amby baby nest
Some travel cots have a vibrating function - does he respond to vibration?
Warming up his cot with a hot water bottle
sleeping on a sheepskin

Any support from your HV?

UNICEF have a leaflet on safer bed-sharing, but just be aware that bedsharing is not quite as safe for a FF baby - apparently it is because they sleep more deeply and therefore don't rouse if there is a problem (ironic, I know).

Best wishes.

littletomato · 07/03/2012 11:57

I see this thread has been 'woken up' - I should say that he is finally sleeping in his cot!
what we did: nothing, really. it just happened naturally. he began sleeping for much longer stretches in our arms throughout the night, so one evening when he'd had a more active day than usual i despondentlyplaced him in the cot after he conked out in my arms. he fidgeted for a bit and then just miraculously slept through until midnight.
so far he sleeps reliably like this every night, from about 7pm-1am and 2-6am, a routine that is solely his own invention. he only sleeps on his side, though, and he hasn't grown out of his reflux yet, so we're still keeping an eye on him.
he was either 3 or 4 months, whether corrected or age is used. i think he just simply needed to be held for the first few months of his life until he was ready.

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BranchingOut · 07/03/2012 13:45

Hooray! How lovely that you were able to give him that care and what he needed when he was so tiny, even though it was so gruelling for you both.

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owl13 · 07/03/2012 23:39

Well done Littletomato. My dc has had a couple of sleeps in the pram since I last posted, and that was only 24 hours ago, so thatcseems like good progress. Daytime naps next!

littletomato · 08/03/2012 05:41

thanks. and congratulations, owl - it's amazing how these changes can just happen overnight (and usually just when one has reached the end of one's tether).

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