Help me, us all get some sleep PLEASE!

[Julezboo]

Ds3 is 13 months old today. Never been a great sleeper. Reflux and cmpi. Which I think we have under control.

He mostly naps around 111am for an hour. Then an hour in the car when I collect other boys from school around 2;45pm.

He has breakfast. Snacks, lunch, dinner and supper.

Still drinks 4/5 x 8oz bottles in 24 hour period.

I do bedtime routine from around half 6, bed for 7. He wakes again at 11, then at 1, 3 and usually up for an hour or so at 5am when u manage to persuade him to go back to sleep. (didn't win that one this morning and we have been awake since 4!)

I have tried water, he has a dummy, no cry sleep solution, sitting with him in the same room, pick up put down, sshh pat. I've even left him crying for a minute or two (broke my heart, couldn't do cc or CIO)

Dh and I are shattered, snapping and bitching at each other.

What else can we do? I am exhausted, I have no energy for the older two and I am suffering with insomnia so when he does wake up I take ages to get back to sleep!

Hiya, have you tried one nap? Maybe do lunch at 11 then sleep at 12 for hopefully a couple of hours? Maybe the late nap interferes with his sleep from 3am making him less tired? 3.45 til 7 doesn't seem like that long awake? Ive been trying to work out my 10mo DD's schedule recently and found that she needs to sleep 10 -11 and then 2/2.30 til 3.30/4 and doesn't get tired til 8pm (she doesn't sleep through but we co-sleep to cope)

Could he working on something like walking? My DD is sometimes awake in the night just before she masters a new skill? In which case fingers cross it will pass soon without you doing too much.

Does he seem tired at 3am? Eye rubbing and unable to get himself to sleep? Or wide awake?

Is he hungry? Would a bottle get him back to sleep? This you could gradually water down if he starts sleeping better.

Hard to not let him nap at around 3pm as we are in the car n he instantly falls asleep in the car lol

He's been walking since 9 months. Forgot to mention in first post he is partially deaf as well :(

Sometimes hes tired at 3am, but most nights he seems wide awake and wanted to play! We used to bring him into bed with us and he'd go straight back off to sleep but since he learnt to climb down safely he spends the whole time doing that now.

I do give him bottles when he wakes often as a last resort. I am thinking that he is in a habit of waking for the milk and this is what we need to stop. But how?

He is at MIL's tonight so we can get some rest and then we will start to tackle it tomorrow. Maybe leave him a bottle of water in his cot rather than milk?