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Is CIO the only option

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ScaryFairy28 · 17/12/2011 20:31

Dd age seven months feeds to sleep which I'm trying to stop cos she goes to nursery in a month was doing ncss which has made things worse or something else has happened she's now going to sleep without boob which is progress but wakes as soon as she's put down or within 10mins shushing and patting then just drives her mad. Dunno what else to do I've spent the last two evenings sitting with her until it's been time for me to go to bed then we cosleep

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Angel786 · 17/12/2011 22:58

We tried pick up put down but in the end cio worked. Didn't let her scream but shed do angry crying / grumbling for five mins then realise we're not running in so sleep.

Good luck!

thisisyesterday · 17/12/2011 23:02

why don't you just keep her downstairs with you until you go to bed?

i couldn't do cry it out. I think it's really horrid to let a little baby scream and scream until she is so tired she falls asleep.. she doesn't klnow you're still there, or that you;ll be coming back eventually :(

all of mine were just fed to sleep, and they all sleep fine by themselves now.
we used the no-cry sleep solution a bit with DS2, around 9/10 months, which worked well if you do want to do some kind of sleep training

ScaryFairy28 · 17/12/2011 23:29

I'm trying ncss but it's one step forward 2 back I know I don't want to do CIO I work in an attachment focused project so know why it's not a good thing but getting desperate

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Shushshessleeping · 17/12/2011 23:33

I was initially against CIO but sometimes ds just needs a bit of a cry and then falls asleep within a few minutes. I never leave him if he's really upset, only if hes grumbling and the cry doesnt increase in volume. You can tell when they are really distressed.

ScaryFairy28 · 18/12/2011 09:24

As soon as you leave her she starts hysterically screaming, I've had to leave her to cry twice to change my bed which she'd been sick on the night before and to do dishes

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thisisyesterday · 18/12/2011 10:54

so take the path of least resistance? (that's what i do lol)

feed her to sleep,let her stay downstairs and then co-sleep when you go up to bed.
sleeping baby, no crying, you get to sit and watch tv

she's only 7 months, she;s still had less time outside of your body than in. she still needs the comfort and security of being with you.
some babies seem to adjust very quickly, and sleep well very early. others take longer, just like anything else.

I'm sure she'll get there in her own time, honest! my second child was feeding every 45-90 minutes day and night at 9 months- that's when we tried the NCSS, so I know all about sleep deprivation. At the time it was a living hell, but I look back now and I'm really glad that I didn't just let him cry and that we took a more gentle approach and it really is such a short time in the grand scheme of things.

I will tell you my trick for leaving a sleeping baby though cos DS2 was a right pain for waking up the moment I moved.
So I would feed to sleep. I would have a blanket or something rolled up between me and him while I fed him.
After he was totally asleep and had come off the breast I would wait at least 10 minutes, they need that long to get into a very deep sleep.
Then, I would veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery slowly start to roll away. If he stirred too much I would move back and shush him. As I rolled away I would gradually replace my body weight with the rolled up blanket- it smelled like me, it pressed up against him like me, it was warm from being between us,
then I would just roll until i was off the bed.
then I would tip-toe oh so quiet out

I would say that worked 7 out o 10 times

AnitaBlake · 18/12/2011 11:16

Weve been feeding to sleep. But what worked for us was to have H put DD to bed for a few nights. She wasn't keen but when I went back to work we had no choice. We both cuddle her to sleep on a night now, she cries a little bit then settles down on my/his chest and closes her eyes. Lately shhes progressed to just getting relaxed in our arms and then settling in her cot. She's 13m but we've been doing this since she was around 7m when she decided to refuse to feed to sleep anymore.

ScaryFairy28 · 18/12/2011 12:05

Going to try and put her straight down in my bed tonight see if that works she alwAys goes down a breeze the first time its then just waiting in her waking. I wish I could spend all evening watching tv and holding her but sadly have things I need to do. I know I've been spoilt up till now she WAS such a good sleeper.

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ladybirdsinmyeyes · 18/12/2011 13:20

What are the basics of ncss? I'm just starting ccing but would love a way that didn't involve screaming. I know its a book but can I just have the jist???!!

ScaryFairy28 · 18/12/2011 14:36

Sorry it'll be very brief as I'm on my phone but it's basically gradual withdrawal so they learn to fall asleep on there own.

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thisisyesterday · 18/12/2011 17:44

it's really worth buying the book if you want to do NCSS imo

it's kind of a way of changing sleep cues and gradual withdrawal to teach your child to sleep by themselves and to help them learn how to self settle.
it's hard to describe the whole thing, which is why I think having the book is just really useful,

corinthian · 18/12/2011 20:43

The gist of No Cry Sleep Solution is very roughly 'take them off your breast when they are drowsy but not asleep and try and put them down, if they cry, go back to feeding them, repeat until they fall asleep'. It also contains lots of standard stuff about bedtimes routines, sleep cues, early bedtime, the importance of naps etc.

The problem for some babies with the NCSS is that feeding can make their digestive system whir during the night making them wake up. Other alternatives are 'Pick Up Put Down' - 'pick them up if they cry, put them down once they stop, but make sure they fall asleep in the cot not in your arms', or staying with them while they cry in their cot comforting them however you wish but not picking them up.

The other thing I will add is that nurseries often find it easier to get babies to sleep than their mothers do (babies tend to cry more for their mothers!) so don't panic too much about nursery.

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