Exclusively breasrfed until 6 months and then poor sleeper - is there a connection?

[Tinker]

What's your experience?

1st was on bottles by 3 months and slept through within 24 hours (am guessing that that was a coincidence) Weaned at 4 months.

2nd = exclusively bf until 6 months, started waking at 20 weeks after sleeping through from 11 weeks.

Does the later weaning = increase hunger leading to more night waking leading to habitual waking?

Oh, yes, and then report back to your, er, friends.

Yes Popsy please do report back!

lets have a sweepstake....what will she suggest

my vote is on controlled crying
without a doubt
oh and cutting down on breast feeding...

Bottle? Actually, to be fair, nearly all of the HV's I've come across have been sound.

mine is actually lovely (she said off the record that she wouldnt vaccinate her own 8 week old and would delay the MMR.....)
but it could be The Dragon at the clinic today....

My DD always been a good sleeper and was exclusively BF til nearly 6 months now I've set myself up for a nightmare sleeper with DD2.

back later to report.....

well she was lovely

first said well done for still breast feeding
then said that I obviously knew what I was doing as i reeled off all the stuff i had tried....

she said it will have a lot to do qith the fact that when i go to work he takes less milk at childminders....

anyway. told her i wasnt up to controlled crying and she accepted that.
she suggested feeding him only twice int he night and settling him at other times.....i said but how does he know that he is allowed to feed at 1am but not at 3am.....(ds2 cant tell the time yet)

she said fair point
told her that a 'friend' suggested timing feeds (like pidge suggested to me on the march thread ) and she said that sounds sensible

she said she admired my integrity and persevereance

one thing she said which when I think about it is a very valid point...

she said that she often gets stories of bad sleep from second time breast feeding mums.....very often first time round breast feeders' babies sleep comparably to bottle feeder and what her theory is is that in the night, we are concerned that baby wil wake older child and the easiest way yo calm a crying baby in the night is with the boob. If you are bottle feeding, other stuff is easioer rather than going downstars, faffing with bottles etc etc. So often, second children whi are breastfed get lots of sleep association with the boob as mum offers it immediately in the early days and this persists

I really do think she has a valid point as this so applies to me.......

What about everyone else?

my grammar, tyoing, everything is appalling apologies

Oh, the less milk at teh childminders has made my blood run cold a little. Mine won't take milk from a bottle or cup yet and I'm back at work this month...

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had endless problems and the week before I was due back, this worked

have told others who couldnt get breast feeding baby to take bottle and worked for all

can i join the exclusively bf til 6 months = rubbish sleeper gang?

ds is 11mo, still a very random sleeper, usually BAD at night (wakes at least twice, often 3, 4, more times). don't feed at night tho, cut that a while back, when ds started waking every 2 hrs for a feed.
popsy - i'm a first timer, so can't relate to the feeding to keep babe quiet thing personally. also can't do CC - tho i prob would've by now if dh was even more against it!! - sleep training currently consists of lying on his bedroom floor & shushing/singing to him when he wakes. seems to be working reasonably well atm, at least we can settle him without boobs anyway which is def progress. tried a sort of pu/pd but think he's too old for it now...

can i join the exclusively bf til 6 months = rubbish sleeper gang?

ds is 11mo, still a very random sleeper, usually BAD at night (wakes at least twice, often 3, 4, more times). don't feed at night tho, cut that a while back, when ds started waking every 2 hrs for a feed.
popsy - i'm a first timer, so can't relate to the feeding to keep babe quiet thing personally. also can't do CC - tho i prob would've by now if dh was even more against it!! - sleep training currently consists of lying on his bedroom floor & shushing/singing to him when he wakes. seems to be working reasonably well atm, at least we can settle him without boobs anyway which is def progress. tried a sort of pu/pd but think he's too old for it now...

byw found only the NUK teats worked on ds - for the oooh whole dozen times he ever had a bottle.

MAM Ultivent worked for us too thanks to a Mumsnetters recommendation a few months ago.

I also agree that the second baby is getting pushed more quickly onto the breast when she wakes at night, in fear of waking dd1.