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TheresAHuppoInMyHouse · 28/04/2011 19:24

My DD is 6 months (4 months adjusted age as she was premature and arrived at 30 weeks). She gradually started sleeping for longer and longer periods and I was feeling very pleased with myself! Then a month ago the night wakings began again, for no apparent reason. She would only have been 3 months (adjusted) so too early for a growth spurt I reckon? Anyway it's still going on and I'm starting to think there must be something I can do to get back to my nice long stretches of sleep!

She is awake for 1.5hr-2hrs at a time during the day, so she normally has 3 naps of an hour each at regular intervals. And a little catnap in the sling sometimes. Perhaps this is too much daytime sleep?

She is exclusively bf and has started to be more distracted suring daytime feeds (those maddeningly endearing pulls-off and smiles! are a killer!) but I'm spending more time feeding, so am trying to keep up the daytime calories.

She is generally happy to settle herself to sleep when drowsy - although always after a bf. For a nap, this only takes a few minutes so perhaps I've started an unhelpful sleep association? Sometimes she's obviously knackered so falls deeply asleep a-boobing, and stays asleep when she's transferred to her cot.

Every time she wakes at night, I feed her and she goes straight back to sleep. I'm a bit nervous of trying to settle her without a feed, and tbh I wouldn't know how to do so. Any tips?

She goes to bed at 7ish and wakes for the day at sometime between 6 and 7. Reading this, I feel like I've got nothing to complain about, but WHY won't the little bugger darling sleep for longer than two or three hours at a time, when she used to do so, apparently effortlessly?!

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greeneone12 · 12/07/2011 09:53

I hope this thread is so quiet because everyone has sleeping babies! meggy I am off to Cornwall soon for two weeks (one week with Mum another in rented accommodation) and I am so nervous about how it will affect DD's sleep. Saying that the Cornish air knocked her out last time so we shall see.

Baileys how's the no feeding at night going? Hope the slanted cup is getting better too. DD now seems quite happy with water from a Tommy Tippee cup but formula....she looks as if we are trying to poison her!

We have had an interesting few nights with no one night being the same. She is still waking at 5am and I am just too lazy to make her wait until 6am. Eaiser to feed then get another hours sleep!

DD woke up the other morning surrounding by loads of vomit - nice! It was everywhere - in her hair, ears, under her neck. Was gross! Think she might have a problem with tomatoes. Will have to give her that particular dish again and see how we go.

Hope you are all ok :)

baileyslover · 12/07/2011 16:23

greenone have a fab time away, we are down in Cornwall this weekend visiting DH's work but only for 4 days so sleep will definately go AWOL I am afraid.

DS isdefinately getting the hang of swallowing water, but still not keen on holding the cup yet, and I am not overly pushing as I am sure he will get water everywhere!

Sleep is still blurgh, last night he slept til 4.30 with 2 self settles (yippee) but then started screaming the place down and wouldn't calm down even when I picked him up, so I caved and fed. It still took him until 6 to fall asleep but at least he wasn't upset, just lying in his cot wide awake. I had to stay with my hand on his back but I can cope if no crying Smile The night before though I was up hourly, but each time settled quickly and I didn't feed at all.

They just don't make things simple for us do they?

TheresAHuppoInMyHouse · 14/07/2011 08:16

Hello everyone, enjoy little hols!

DH got really fed up with the sleep problems last weekend and I ended up agreeing to try CC this weekend. I am NOT looking forward to it. He thinks I am far too precious with her, and if she exhausts herself by crying, then she will sleep far better. I just find it too upsetting to hear her cry when I know there is a more peaceful way. DP had rung a friend of his and said 'when did yours sleep through?' - she has three DCs, and they slept through at 6 months, then 4 months, then 3 weeks. (!) Hmm

Dammit.

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greeneone12 · 14/07/2011 09:11

Thanks baileys 3 weeks???? I very much doubt it. Maybe she meant a 6 hour stretch? I hope it goes ok for you and she settles quickly.

Meggymoodle · 14/07/2011 11:21

3 weeks? My word I'd be panicking if I had a 3-week old sleeping through! Hope everyone enjoys the hols.

I am delighted to say that the trip to my parents did not disturb the sleep at all. She has started waking at 5.15ish or thereabouts which is a bit of bummer but frankly compared to what we had I will still take it over the night wakings especially as often she will go back to sleep for 45 mins or so and anything after 6 I tend to think is reasonable.

Anyway, just wanted to touch base and say we're still doing OK (at the risk of jinxing it) but that she is starting to crawl so I fear some nightmare nights with that.

Huppo - I hope the cc goes OK and that it works as well as ours did (although ours was really controlled leaving as she didn't really cry very much). Are you going to do a dream feed at 10.30 ish? We did and then at least I knew she wasn't hungry. Good luck!

TheresAHuppoInMyHouse · 14/07/2011 19:43

I know, I just don't believe the three weeker, but sadly DP does, and he puts it all down to the fact that the mother was so relaxed by the time she had her third child, she let it cry and so it slept through. So he is now convinced that I am pointlessly encouraging the wakings, by responding to her quickly, to settle her when she wakes.

When she doesn't settle herself back to sleep, her crying escalates quickly, and stays at fever pitch for ages. I know, because one night when DP was looking after her, he'd shut all the doors so I couldn't hear her, and she was screaming and had been for over half an hour before my instincts kicked in and I went to investigate. She showed no sign of going back to sleep, she was just getting louder, sweatier and madder. She settled back quickly once I'd given her a cuddle and the dummy. Annoyingly, she then slept for the rest of the night so DP is convinced it was because she had exhausted herself by crying, and that it's the way forward. But I hate hearing it. So I'm scared that CC is going to be prolonged and painful. I could manage it if it was like yours, meggy.

On the plus side, she had a lovely day at nursery today, when I went to collect her, she was playing in the garden looking really happy. And she had three very substantial naps at nursery, so all bodes well for a good night tonight!

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Meggymoodle · 14/07/2011 21:34

Huppo - really good luck for tonight. Part of me thinks that actually DD was turning a corner anyway as she'd started sleeping on her front and sucking her thumb so it was just a developmental thing and she just needed a gentle nudge. Not sure I could have carried it through with major amounts of crying; I'm too pathetic (and she is my second so it's not just first time parents that can't hack it!).

All that said, she's been really unsettled this evening, not sure whether she's too hot or what but doesn't bode well for tonight - serves me right for going on about how fantastic she's been!

greeneone12 · 15/07/2011 16:39

huppo how did it go?

TheresAHuppoInMyHouse · 16/07/2011 14:13

Well it wasn't too bad, although there were moments that I hated it, but all in all Night One was better than I had feared it might be. She was late to bed and took half an hour of yelling to fall asleep, by about 8.30. I checked on her every minute, then every two, then every three, then four, and did a couple more after 3 as I couldn't leave her longer than that, it was making me too agitated. The most horrible part was that when I went in to comfort her, she just got worse. I know what that means - leave her alone!! In fact I picked her up a couple of times when I went in, which calmed her right down again. I'm sure that's not how it's supposed to work, but it made me feel better.

Ugh.

Then she woke at 12.30 and I did it again, and she was asleep by 1am. And she then slept till just after 7 which IS a result. I'm not convinced it was the crying which did it, but tonight will tell. AND - I had a lie-in this morning as I got DP to do the morning shift. Ooh it was a great success and will be part of the weekend routine once I go back to work properly!

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TheresAHuppoInMyHouse · 18/07/2011 11:05

This thread is definitely fading, which can only be a good thing, but I will miss you all! I've just had the best night's sleep ever - she slept from 7pm til 8am! Grin Shock Grin

So - we did one night of CC - there were 2 stints of crying, both about half an hour. Then the next night she was flowing with rivers of snot so I gave her a break, and she woke once at 11ish and took about an hour to settle, and I had to feed her, hey ho. But then last night, she was still coldy, went straight to sleep (with the dummy) without a peep, and next thing she was chatting to herself at 8am. So the pattern of there being no pattern continues!

And she is coming up to 9 months, which means we are bang into sleep regression territory .... oh well, one day she will be 18 and then we will have Made It. [hwink]

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greeneone12 · 18/07/2011 12:54

Wow that is fantastic! So pleased for you. 9 months sleep regression?? I couldn't be more sad reading that. Why is there one at 9 months too. We suffered enough at 4M!

Last night was hell. After two hours she settled with a feed. Thought it was teething. Like you say the pattern of no pattern continues!

canoe · 18/07/2011 19:13

Ah I'm so glad i found this thread! My DS in 5M 1wk and for the last 2 weeks his sleep has been all over the place. He's always slept well, and had been in a very regular routine of bed at 7pm, dream feed at about 10pm, wakes for another feed at 4am and the wakes for the day at 6 - 630am, when he's happy to play for a bit before being fed.

However for the last 2 weeks he's been waking up to 5 times a night! Which has also coincided with DP being away with work, cue me being a complete zombie all day, and having to quickly check how much coffee you could drink before it starts affecting them through BF Blush

It's been very reassuring to read all your stories and I like all the theories people have come up with, i keep having them too - doesn't seem to make much difference, i think he has his own theories...

I've decided i'm just going to go with it for now, and if feeding him to sleep is what it takes, then that's what i'll do...

I was considering starting him on some solids as a lot of places seem to suggest that helps their sleep, but i've decided not to, partly from reading this, and also cos i live overseas and am about to go home for a couple of weeks :) :) and think it will be so disrupted then that i don;t want to have just started him on new food before we go. (So if anyone has any tips for a 17 hour flight with a 5M old i'd been very grateful!)

So, i just wanted to say thanks for sharing your experiences and here's to lots of sleep for everyone from now on

greeneone12 · 19/07/2011 08:54

Hi Canoe

I really am grateful to theresa for starting this thread as it helped me through the hard times! It's just so annoying when you know where you are and then everything goes into chaos! I think you are so brave taking a 17 hour flight with the little one. Saying that I think it must be easier than travelling that far with LO's that can walk and move around!

theresa I can't believe it. Last night was terrible as well. I really didn't even know there was a 9month sleep reg and am now dreading the next few weeks. Let's hope the Cornish air knocks her out! How was your night?

baileyslover · 19/07/2011 19:20

Well, it sort of feels like we are going no where fast. We have been away for a few days and DS sleep has been terrible. Multiple factors including travel cot, in our room and rubbish blinds but I was sooooo glad to get home last night.

Something has to improve soon, I am back at work in 6 weeks and I will just be a zombie. Going to speak to my HV next week. I bet they are going to push for CC which I just dread as DS can cry for 2 hours with us with him let alone left by himself. And a 9mth regression ..... Heaven help us!!

greeneone12 · 20/07/2011 09:13

Hi Baileys I am away for two weeks soon and so scared about it affecting LO's sleep. I think your DC will settle just in time for you to go back to work. They seem to have a third sense about these things. Even if they do push for CC you don't have to do it. I reckon us Mum's should do what our heart tells us. Mine last night said put DD out with the recycling this morning but I just about managed to stop myself ;)

DD has now had 3 nights of crying uncontrollably :( Absolutely crap. Last night calpol didn't help at all and I resorted to piriton as I thought it might be her itching. She did go off after that and slept from 12 until 6am so it couldn't of been hunger. Doesn't make a difference if it's me or DP settling. She just goes crazy!

To top it off my monthly hell has returned but guess I can't complain as DD is nearly 9 months now.

TheresAHuppoInMyHouse · 20/07/2011 12:50

Greeneone LOL about putting DD out with the recycling! Love it. Sometimes they deserve it!!

Baileys I'm back to work fulltime on 8th August, it is really quite scary isn't it? Let's hope things will settle down now you're home and back in a familiar environment. Someone said to me recently it's amazing what you find you can cope with (referring to getting no sleep when you go back to work). I would really rather we didn't have to try and cope on no sleep, though!

And hello Canoe, it's funny to think of people reading back over the thread for support, but it's great to think that it can be a bit of a help. At least, if you don't get too bored, you can see all the many many things we've tried to get them to sleep better, and you can see that (some, small) progress has been made, from the darkest times of waking every 2 hours, or even every half an hour, for night after night.

I have a new technique to resettle her now if she's really yelling overnight. It breaks all the rules! I get her up, give her a cuddle, keep her in the dark room. When she's calm, in goes the dummy. Cuddle continues till she falls asleep on my shoulder. Then into the cot she goes. It may take a couple of goes, but it's done the trick for me a couple of times when I've been desperate!

Having said that, last night she slept again from 8pm ish till 7.40am. This is extremely good news!

My new worry is about her development. She still can't roll over or pull herself up to standing. So her sleep is bound to deteriorate when all that happens ....

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greeneone12 · 21/07/2011 10:20

8pm - 7.40am - wooowoo! We always went for a 7pm bedtime expecting a 12 hour sleeper. Wrong! She only needs 11 hours max :( Never mind. No screaming last night which was lovely!

Ditto for me theresa. DD just sits and doesn't move much so the real fun is yet to start. sigh At least we have each other!

cotswolder · 22/07/2011 11:14

marking my place while reading as DD just started crying but will come back later as have a crap sleeper at 6.5 months and just found this!

Meggymoodle · 22/07/2011 11:56

Hello again ladies. Really thought I might be going to leave you at one point as sleep was going so well, but as predicted it has all gone to hell in a hand cart a bit wrong since she's started crawling. What's all that about - crawling at 7 months?? Hello?? DS was at least 9 if not 10 months. It's a nightmare, now having two mobile destruction machines children.

So, we're back to multiple wake ups with no settling in the night. This week we've had her up from 3-6 some nights and then that's it for the day. I had to go back up to my parents again as my grandfather died and we had the funeral. DD was a shocker - finally one night my parents took her in with them! Last night, back home, she was a bit better. I dream fed at 10.45 and then she woke and needed patting to sleep. The she woke at 2 but went back herself and then up for the day at 5.30.

5.30 in my book is NOT acceptable- especially when DS is going until 7. Plus she would only sleep for 45 mins this am so is undertsandably knackered (and boy do I know how she feels). Have put her down again after ridiculously early lunch and am praying for more than 45 mins.

Anyway, sorry for all that waffle. Good luck to all of you going back to work and welcome (but sorry you've had to join us) for the new ladies. :)

Meggymoodle · 22/07/2011 11:58

By the way, meant to say CONGRATULATIONS greenone and huppo - sleep sounds amazing in your houses!

baileyslover · 22/07/2011 22:25

Hello meggy thought we had lost you to the sleeping thread Grin

Good news that since we have been home there have been no night feeds, but still plenty of wake ups! Think there maybe a bit of separation anxiety creeping as he is now struggling to go to sleep by himself at night time, but fine for his naps hmmm

Additionally I found carpet burns on DS knees where he is trying to kneel all the time Blush hoping the crawling follows soon xx

greeneone12 · 23/07/2011 12:26

Hi Meggy It was ok until the uncontrollable crying! Saying that yesterday she napped in total for about 30 mins. Great I thought. A crap night awaits us and she slept through!

I am truly scared about our two weeks away :( I have tried to introduce a glow worm for nighttimes so she feels a little less freaked out. Hope it ears its money!

Sorry for your loss Meggy.

TheresAHuppoInMyHouse · 25/07/2011 04:05

FFS!

After a few nights of proper sleep, and a few with just one waking, I've just managed to get her back to sleep after 2 hours of trying! She was just awake and singing for ages, then started crying. She would settle if I went in but started up again reliably.

Please don't wake up again, DD. I'm ready for a kip.

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ennistonemother · 25/07/2011 12:08

Hello everyone, please can I join you?

My DD is 6mo, and if she woke every 3 hours I would be dancing a jig with delight. She often wakes up every 45 minutes or so until about 12 or 1am, then she sometimes manages 2 hours asleep, and then it's back to every hour or so. On good nights she wakes up "only" 3 or 4 times. She's also forgotten how to nap these last few days, all of which means that I've forgotten how to interact in normal human society.

Thinking of trying CC, but want to avoid it if possible, as I'm a total wuss and not sure I'd be able to take it. At the moment I'm feeding her to sleep in the "evening" wakings, in the vain hope that loading her up with food might encourage her to sleep later, and then DH does some shush-patting for the next few wakings, and then at some point between 3 and 5 I normally give up and feed her again - although I'm pretty sure it's comfort rather than hunger, as she rarely eats much.

And she's just woken up after a 20 minute nap...

baileyslover · 25/07/2011 14:02

Hiya ennistonemother Welcome to our sleep deprived group! We can't promise answers, but it does get better! ( then sometimes worse again Grin)

one thing I would say is that my DS definately wanted food at night for much longer than I was told. He was still on 2 night feeds until I weaned him at six months and has only recently dropped the other feed, so if you feel your LO needs food then do it!

I am pleased to report that this past week of being home DS has got better each night and cumulated in a couple of self settles last night, but no me involvement from 8.15 til 7.45 this am!Grin

theresa I feel your pain. It drives me mad when they don't go to sleep. DS was really bad for it for a couple of weeks when he was learning to roll/ sleep on his tummy but it is much better now and he goes off quickly with some back rubbing. Here's hoping it is a short phase. Xx

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