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how long did it take to night wean and/or get child to stay in their own bed all night?

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crapbarry · 29/03/2011 13:27

briefly, how many nights of controlled crying/PUPD/water instead of milk, did you need before your child got the hint that they should stay in their own bed and sleep all night?

lengthily, DS (18 months) has been getting increasingly awful with sleep in the past 2 months - he goes down in his cot at the beginning of the night (it's at the end of our bed, no room for him to move into his own room for the next few months, but we should be buying a house soon where he'll have his own room), then wakes up some time between 11 and 1 (we go to bed at 9.30 or 10, and he NEVER rouses then, occasionally before we go up, but never when we actually enter the room).

He will immediately stand up and SCREAM at the top of his lungs until we respond (there's no escalation). If the response is not a feed and a cuddle, he screams more, so for a while, we took him into our bed, and I'd feed him, then he'd wriggle and twitch and scratch and poke, and hair pull, and generally be an absolute nightmare bed-companion until about 5 am when he'd sleep properly, starfished across the bed. DH and I get up for work at 6 am, so we have been slowly but surely getting more and more wretched over the past 2 months.

So, last week, I snapped, and decided to night wean, and get him to stay in his cot over night. When he wakes, he gets a cup of water, then he is laid back down and left to it for 5 mins, then we lay him back down again, etc etc. Effectively controlled crying. He goes back down beautifully the first time he wake, but the second time - it took him 3 hours of screaming the 1st night, 2.5 hours the second, then 3 hours every night since. DH and I are broken. We are not sure how long we can keep this up for without maiming him or me crashing on the motorway on the way to work. Sicne the scremaing is normally between 3 am and when he conks out, we haven't slept all week.

We are also using CC at bed times, although occasionally he falls sleep mid feed. Last night he took 45 minutes to go down, which was brilliant, it's a massive improvement on previous 4 hour yelling sessions. We stay in the room btw, if we leave the room he vomits and climbs out the cot, bashing his head on the way out. It isn't pretty.

He has a dummy, but he tends to chuck it the first time we walk away from the cot, and then he points and shouts for his dudu in between screams. Oh, and he goes to bed at 6.30/7 every night, and we forgo the bath if he's knackered. Otherwise, same routine, day in, day out. his naps are all over the place, but he needs one in the morning and one after lunch - some days he'll refuse his nap altogether, and there's nowt we can do about it.

I'm just unsure how long we should wait before giving up on this strategy.

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ShushBaby · 30/03/2011 16:36

I night weaned at 7 months. DP would go in and offer water (always refused), then he did PUPD, then I took over when he lost the will to live!

It took three nights. First night took 1h 20m or so, second night 50 mins, third night slept through.

Mind you, she has gone through the usual sleep regressions/teething/colds since then, and we have used PUPD again (actually when they get older it's just PD). And she has woken up for the day between 5am-6am virtually every single day since starting to sleep through. But generally speaking she goes for 10-11 hours. And the feeding thing is just not an issue any more, in fact she has stopped feeding altogether.

I think dd would really kick off if we did controlled crying like your ds- so maybe (PU)PD could work for you?

Mumcah · 30/03/2011 17:49

I would ditch the dummy tbh.
Also,how much 'attention' do you give him when going in?
With my DC I just go in and say 'it's ok X,but it's time to sleep' and leave the room straight away.the crying gets loud as they are annoyed that you've left them.
Must be hard if he is in your room though.

crapbarry · 30/03/2011 17:54

well, we had a minor breakthrough yesterday - at bed time he was down within an hour, not too much yelling, and he only woke once, at 3, and went straight back to sleep! DH and I both sleep drunk today!! we'll see how tonight goes (this will be night 7 of this attempt!)

when we go in to put him down we just lie him down and say 'sleep now' in DH's language (same word we've used since birth for sleeping!)

not getting rid of the dummy now - once he's settled in the new house we'll get rid, but he needs it at nursery for the time being, so we're working on gradual withdrawal!!

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