8 month old sleeping misery

[pipplin]

I really need some kind words of advice please
DS used sleep fantastically in his own crib. Until about 6 months it all just changed. He would only then sleep on us. Now he will sleep in our bed.
We have moved the cot bed in our room and attempting a bedtime routine, this our 6th night.
Bath, massage, bottle, soothing music and he falls asleep. Hold him for a while then put him in cot bed where a warm hot water bottle was- to encourage him to stay asleep.
Tonight he lasted 5 minutes before waking and crying and becoming hellish to settle. He is now asleep next me on our bed.
The other night I didn't let him in our bed until 3am. Neither of us slept. I shushed and patted I tried pick up put down. He cannot self settle.
I really want him out our bed, for our relationship, for my sanity, I just need some space away from him at night. I know that must sound barmy.
Im pg too so I think that's why I'm so irritable and just need my bed back!
I'm not at all anti co sleeping but this is not working for us.
How do I get him to sleep in his own bed?

His naps are all over the show lately as well. This has all started since he started to army crawl, had horrid virus that we are still getting over. Being constipated- we are treating this but it appears to be a slow process.

Please help. I've had enough and I'm so so tired!
DP is seriously anti CC btw

sorry, but IME the only answer is to let him cry for a bit. I did it for a few days with both of mine. Without it, I would have gone nuts, seriously.

I have let him cry but he just goes mad! Also worry about the neighbours tbh.
I really am at my wits end and may try it again. He wakes himself rolling over too.

With mine, I've found it helps to wake them a little bit before putting them down in their cot after they've fallen asleep feeding or in my arms. It's almost like they are nearly asleep when they go in the cot and they don't get a shock by being there instead of in your arms when they come up into lighter sleep. The theory is they are in the same place they remember falling asleep so they just figuratively turn over and drop off again. Might work? No sleep is rubbish!

pipplin babies do get absolutely furious that they have been left, but as long as you are there to respond to them then they will be safe and will eventually give it up, in the interests of a good nights sleep. What you might have to do is go in after 10 - 15 mins of crying with some milk and then guaranteed the combo of being overtired and milk will send him straight to sleep. Good Luck. It worked with our two!

PS, Fuck the neighbours, seriously

I agree with Funny - the neighbours were children, will have children or did in the not too distant past - don't let them worry you...

My 7 month old is also a crummy sleeper, although we have left him to cry/chunter to himself in the day to get himself off to sleep, and that has seriously helped his night time sleep, as he drops off himself at bed time and now goes through to about 2 with a dream feed.

Please don't worry about letting them cry a little, and i don't mean scream, just have a bit of a whinge, as my DH says, our son can't speak, so how else does he wind down at the end of the day - let him just chill in his own space for a bit and chat, and do it regularly, as this will remind him that this is ok and just part of going to the land of nod.

Good luck!! We're still not there with sleeping through, but much better quality naps in the day and nights are improving