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If you did PU/PD

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Cosmosis · 10/01/2011 11:44

did it work, and how quickly? what age did you do it?

DS is 18 weeks and feeds to sleep for pretty much all his sleeps (unless we are out in car/pram basically). Occassionally in the night he will go back to sleep on his own, so I don't automatically pick him up whenever he wakes. I think I need to get him to self settle more though as he is waking ridiculously often and not always for hunger.

Please tell me it will work and will not be horrendous

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CountBapula · 02/02/2011 16:19

Will do

JudysDreamHorse · 12/02/2011 11:10

Any more PUPD success stories? We're going to try it with DS next week (he'll be 19 weeks). Can you just do it for bedtime/night wakings or does it have to be for naps as well? Anyone had success using it for both when their baby is difficult to settle all the time? Thanks.

CountBapula · 14/02/2011 10:25

Bumping cos I'm starting it in two weeks' time when DH is off so will be needing this thread for support

JudysDreamHorse · 14/02/2011 21:45

We're trying shush pat first in the end as apparently PUPD should be used if that fails first. We're the second night in and it's a bit hideous to be honest. Have agreed with DH will try for a week so will post how it goes. Good luck if you try it Count.

CountBapula · 15/02/2011 03:45

Keep posting, Judys ...

OnEdge · 15/02/2011 04:07

What is PUPD ? (sorry, can't find it in acronyms, sounds fascinating )

JudysDreamHorse · 15/02/2011 12:03

Onedge - It's Pick up/Put down- there's a link earlier in the thread to a website with lots of info.
Count - I nearly posted quite detailed info about how it was going last night and then chickened out as it involved lots of crying and I am scared people will say,"why are you letting your baby cry, he's only little, you monster" which to be honest I feel would be a fair response at the moment. Have been posting on the BW forum instead where people give you hugs and say things like,"bubs cry" . We're doing this because DS cries tonnes in the evening no matter what we do so hopefully this will get somewhere and we're not leaving him at all and always have physical contact with him. Think we're going to try using a dummy which he won't normally take. This is also the approach the HV suggested (though she said don't pick him up no matter what and we are). Wish I knew if this was the equivalent to CC though or if staying with him makes it ok. He just gets harder and harder to calm as we go on. Have promised DH will try for a week but if 2nd night was worse than 1st and if tonight is worse again don't think I can take it. On the plus side the 1st night he woke 7 times and I fed him 3 times. Last night he woke 5 times and I fed him 3 times again. It's not really about getting him to sleep through - though sleeping for longer stretches would be major bonus (and 2 hours straight would be longer at moment) - it's more about having a way to settle him in the evening that both me and DH can do as I can't go on settling him myself all evening and all night.

CountBapula · 15/02/2011 13:32

Oh Judys, I know exactly what you mean - we're in the same boat. DS cries and screams to some extent every time we put him down. Sometimes it's only 5-10 mins but a lot of the time he'll cry on and off for an hour in the evenings when we try and settle him. He starts crying as soon as we zip him into his grobag. Yesterday afternoon he just wouldn't sleep and screamed at me hysterically for over an hour even though I was holding him and shhing and patting. Nothing seemed to work. He used to be OK at bedtime but since 15 weeks he's cried so much every night and takes an hour or more to settle. He's also waking every 2 hours on average. DH and I are absolutely exhausted. So I kind of feel like - yes, there will be crying, but he cries anyway no matter what we do, and if we can get him to settle better there'll be less crying overall. And we won't be leaving him - if I understand it correctly, the element of CC that's bad for younger babies (4/5 months) isn't the crying, it's the fact they are being left alone and don't understand that you're coming back.

What are you doing at the moment - shhing and patting in the cot? I almost think my DS woukd cry more with that because he's so used to being cuddled/rocked to sleep.

Don't feel bad - I am in the exact same situation and it is hideous.

OnEdge · 15/02/2011 14:29

I'm with ya ! I did it with my 5.5 month old the night before last, once she had been winded. We usually give her a feed but I don't think she needs one really. She did go back to sleep after 15 minutes of PUPD and then patting.

Last night, she woke, and wanted feeding (no doubt) she wolfed down a 6oz bottle.

I just don't know what to do, my 1st slept through from 7 weeks, so I know its possible. Just got 18 month old to sleep through, and 3 year old in own bed, now just the baby to sort out.

I think that controlled crying (when they are older) and PUPD are good ideas because they give us a coping mechanism, so we know what to do, like a plan. Otherwise, I end up pacing up and down, jigging singing, in the cot, out the cot - WTF do I do ???

its good to have a plan of action, at least then we can be consistent.

OnEdge · 15/02/2011 14:31

have found cc very effective with 18 month old son, 1st night is hell, but then by 2nd 3rd he has got the message. I didn't expect it to work. I did stick to it like glue, timed it with a stopwatch and everything.

OnEdge · 15/02/2011 14:32

I felt guilty doing the cc, but my friend pointed out that it would be kind in the long run because my son would get a decent nights sleep, and my DD who shares the room.

JudysDreamHorse · 15/02/2011 20:50

Count - I am shush patting to sleep (well for a shush we're using a recorded shush on the monitor and the hair dryer as a super shush and putting a hand on his chest for the pat). Tonight has been a lot better which is a huge relief (so far anyway). DH settled him with much less crying in 30 mins (compared with 2 hours of near constant screaming last night). He woke after 40 mins and I fed him as I wasn't sure he had fed well before bed but then put him down to bed awake and shush patted him to sleep in 10 mins! I know the evenings not over yet but feel much better about it all (though trying not to expect tomorrow to be better again). The difference tonight was we started using the hairdryer straight away rather than waiting until we had no other way to calm him. We also picked him up and tried to calm him that way a lot more as well which we had thought had made him worse the first night so did less the second IYSWIM.
Onedge - I think you're right about having a clear plan of action. It's especially helping DH as I'm always changing what I'm doing to try and find a way to get him down and it leaves him feeling a bit lost as to what to do. Everything seems to say that continuouity is key. I think everyone does what they have to do and has to make the decision if the ends justifies the means - must be hard with other DC to think of as well - sure you did what you had to

JudysDreamHorse · 15/02/2011 21:29

Knew I'd post too quickly of success. Awake again.... DH is to the rescue with the hairdryer.

CountBapula · 15/02/2011 21:45

Yes but at least you got him down in less time with less crying. Definitely progress! Keep at it!

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