Toddler waking early again!

[dycey]

So after a good week of ten hour nights my ds is getting up from 4.3am. With patting or rocking he will doze but wakes 10 mins later. He will come into bed but does the same thing - doze and wake.

He is napping as usual for 1.5 hours at 11 or 11.30. Goes to bed after bath, books and milk around 7.30.

I have had some success getting him to sleep10 hours by making sure he's asleep by 7.30. If it goes past that he tends to get up earlier. Last night was 7.40 and up at 4.30 but dozing like I described.

However he is falling asleep on the bottle at the moment - maybe he is overtired?

Can he really wake early because he went to bed 10'mins too late?

Once he would have woken at 4.30 but gone back into a decent sleep. Not any more!
Is he overtired or needing to drop nap? It looks likeboth to me. No idea what to do apart from try and get him to bed awake at 7.30!

Any advice v v v welcome as pretty lost about what to do. Thankyou

I am so feeling your pain at the moment.

Ds2 (3) used to be a great sleeper but hasn't slept through the night for months (on a regular basis anyway- the odd night here and there).

I bought a clock, a GroClock (is that right?), I've tried bribery, flinging milk in his direction (not literally, you understand), closing the door, heating up, heating down, nap, no nap- and it's getting worse. Last night he woke me up three times and finally was up for the day from about 5. He won't come into our bed. There was shouting, banging on the gate- everything.

Now he's playing 'making the tea' with the last of my hot chocolate and the filter jug and I'm too tired to care.

And I feel guilty even posting here because some of you sufferers are having it much worse.

Oh dear shodan, sounds like you have a perfect right to be posting! More than me because at least my ds sleeps for now - just gets up early! That's my issue at the mo.

Why do you think he's having this setback - or is there no rhyme or reason?

So far plan (shift nap and bedtime later) not working - 4.30 wake today and dozing in bed with me and milk. But I have hope that if I persist it will... Unfounded hopes.

Will check back in if things improve!

The others?

6:30!!!!!!!!

A veritable lie-in. Bedtime was bad. DH took charge and put him back in bed consistantly for an hour. Lots of yelling from ds but surprisingly none from DH.

I think ds was just so exhausted from the last week. Am just praying it wasn't a one off.

I have heard that works, the consistently putting back to bed. I find ds sleeps better is dh puts him to bed (but he usually wants mummy)!

We had quite a good night. Kids asleep by 6 and 6.30pm, slept (more or less) through (dd woke me to tell me her scary dream, while I went mmm... yeah... right... gosh, that does sound scary... night night). Woke at 5.45ish. Dh got up, so I had a couple of hours lie-in. Am football widow this afternoon so hopefully won't be completely exhausted and grumpy for once!

6.30am - wow!

Wow Fruitstick, have often found that Dad's are better somehow. Make sure you get him to do it again over the weekend and hopefully by Monday you'll have it cracked.

DS2 woke at 5.30, i put him back in bed, he was wide awake and chatty but then didn't open the door/make noise until 6.10ish when DH got up with him.

Not as bad as some mornings but still...though he did crash out for a long nap yesterday, must try to stop him doing that.

dycey- I have no idea why he's started waking. I wondered if it was nightmares, but he seems happy enough? As far as I can tell all teeth are through. He's not too hot. Or too cold. Ach I don't know. Anyway.

6.40 here. And only one wake up, which DH dealt with.

But ds2 was pooped- had only had a twenty minute nap in the car at around one pm. Good for his nighttime sleep maybe but it made him manic just before bed.

I feel so much more able to cope today- have had a long lie-in!

4.50 today.

But I was awake from 4.30 totally convinced it ws after six so I understand how body clocks get messed up and morning waking becomes a habit. How to change it though?

6.10 here

Yet i still feel shattered

DS2 so lively and i'm just emerging from fog of sleep.
DS1 pretty sure awake too but still in his room.

For you, if you consistently wake at 4.30 i would even try the wake to sleep on yourself, set your phone alarm for 3ish, you'll prob turn it off almost still asleep, roll over and go back to sleep. Worth i try?

Glad about yr hour this morning. Yes if it keeps up I should try that. Good idea.

Have shifted his nap to 12.30 successfully. He still gets tired around late morning but gets z second wind and a boost from lunch. Quite surprised how that has worked. Is it all habit and body clock.

Wishing I had followed gina ford now - tho I was totally incapable of doing it and all the ignoring it involves - but how much less tiring to have the results now!

6.30 today!

Either random good luck or my plan has worked. Either way am enjoying it greatly this morning.

Any other good ones?

6:30 for us too .

DH is doing a sterling job at the rapid return to get him to stay in his bed so I'm hoping that will also improve over the next week.

DS1 (4.5) has been getting up at 4/5 and coming into our bed though. I think he gets cold! Fine, but then I can't get back to sleep properly as he fidgets so much, so I'm still not full of beans.

At least no Postman Pat though

Big improvements, yey!

DS2 up at 5.20 this morning, after 2 better mornings I put him back in bed & hid under the duvet (!) until he opened his door at 6.10 when DH got up.

So on the 2 days he had a bit of a nap (Fri & Sat) he slept a bit longer the next morning.

Only a 10min nap yesterday & up early this morning.

Maybe i should let him nap then?
he was definitely dropping it a while ago though.

Oh well I don't know, it was 4.50 again. But his room was freezing. Yesterday he was v energetic from all the extra sleep.

O depressing

It is depressing.

Well DS2 had no nap yesterday, and only opened their door at 6.40

I, on the other hand, slept terribly. Went to bed early but just lay there not sleeping, fun. DS2 may have been awake in the night i can't quite remember

I almost don't want to post in case I jinx it but we've had two mornings with 6.55 wake up!!!

Although we did give him milk again. I dunno. We keep saying firmly that we'll cut out the milk at night (even though it's only a little dribble really, more comfort than anything) but then early morning comes and we cave...

Sorry you two had such rough nights again. I keep clinging onto the knowledge that in- what, a year or so?- ds2 will be able to take himself downstairs and switch on the tv. How bad is thaat eh? Wishing his life away...

Just an update in case this helps anyone - ds now sleeping til 6am. Later nap and 8pm bedtime seem to have worked for now!

Yey Dycey & Shodan :)

Good news here, DS2 had a few 6 o'clocks in a row, and this morning beither of them woke until 7.15
We were at a party yesterday afternoon which wore them out, just need to gatecrash one every Sunday then!

Jinxed myself obviously, DS2 awake at 5.50 today, and DS1 is awake upstairs as DS2 made such a racket, grr.

Ds2 does have a cough which woke him i think but argh, was hoping for another 7!

Can i jump on the I NEED MORE SLEEP band wagon please? my DS is 22mths and wake betweens 4 and 5 :( and has done for months, we did have a tiny break through a few months ago where he was waking at around 6.30ish but it was short lived (about a week), he came down with a tummy bug, then a heavy cold and we have been back to these early risings for a couple of months now. We have tried letting him cry it out but he then wakes our DDs, they are 6&8 so the last thing i need is them to go to school, sleep deprived......GRRR its just frustrating, i am so moody all the it's awful :( it has an effect on the whole family. Thankfully my DH pulls his weight and we take turns at getting up, but even when its not my turn to get up my body clock is so screwed up i dont sleep right anyway.