pleeeeease sleeeeeeeeeeeep.

[PavlovtheCat]

ffs.

I just cant be bothered to say any more than that.

frustrating, innit.

yes. and neverending.

yours asleep yet?

Oh Pav....

thighs indeed...

the boy has been poorly. He has been in with me. I has been marginally better. Tonight. Full of beans.

Anyone know if bourgoise sparkly grey eye shadow is poisionous to babies? Looking for the calpol in the bathroom, turned to see the boy covered around his chops in grey sparkles. His nappy shall be interesting at least.

i just don't know what to do any more. Not that I ever did, just felt like i had some grip on it all really. But, honestly, while i thought second baby would bring some knowledge and understanding, I am hold my hand up and honestly say i haven't got a fucking clue.

How the hell did I ever think I could manage two children and a job.

I don't know what to say, your poor thing, except hang in there.

There is not alot to be done when they're poorly. DD2 had nasal congestion for 9 weeks solidly so we just had to grin and bear it. It's beyond awful. You can manage but you might need to get some more help. Can you do anything like a night nanny/sleep clinic/ maybe revisit some kind of CC when he's better.

Its shit at the moment

Yes it gets better

But you need to get through it whilst it is bad

Can you take a bit of time off work so you can gt some rest? Even a day to catch up on sleep whilst they are in childcare?

Bourgeois make up isn't poisonous .... My DS ruined one of my urban decay eye shadows smothering it all over his face (made him a bit spotty)

A day off? oh that would be nice. i either go the gp and take a whole pile of time off work or go in. its one of those places/that kind of work that if you take one day off, all you do is screw it up for everyone else, and then go back to chaos the following day. If I took a week off, it might actually do some good, they would get cover, i would get to sort this out. but my working relations will suffer. It is hard to go back to work after being sick with stress/exhaustion/other lameass type reasons (in their eyes).

I was talking to my friend yesterday, she is poorly, something causing her to vomit every day (not pg, possble ulcer/ibs? that kind of thing, feels shit every day) and she is struggling on in to work as no-one to cover her. FFS you imagine how it will look if I take time off for 'being tired'.

i want to leave/want my mum/want someone to come and sort it out/want to sleep/want to be on my own/want to feel slightly less pissed off with both my children.

I will get Sod All of any of those.

stop moaning.

It isn't lame when you are ill from exhaustion - it isn't being a bit tired

I know it is hard beyond belief ... I work FT, have 2 kids, and a DH who is rarely around due to his work, plus a 2 hour commute (not being competitive BTW)

Can anyone help at all?

Pav, you poor thing. I agree with ruby - you need time off or some help so you can get kip.

I am barely holding it together with 2 kids and no job, plus my Mum helps me with ds1. You are doing really well.

Sorry, cliche-tastic. Not sure wht to say really other than so sorry you are going through this. It is incredibly hard. 'Tired' doesn't touch it. I had no idea quite how awful sleep deprivation was till we had ds 2.

ok decision made.

DD threw up in the night (another party, we thought she scoffed too many sweets again, was sick last week after halloween party).

However, since about 4am I have been fighting sickness, and have a headache. Decided I was going in anyway, dressed, two sips of coffee, and bingo up comes completely undigested meal from last night (curry no less, NOT pleasant!). I almost choked on it!

I have a stinking headache and I am still contemplating going to work. i know I am not being lame, that it is not 'a little bit tired' but thats how it will be seen at work, I am certain. I recall the gossip when I was off with hyperemesis in my pregnancy, a friend told me what was being said about how slack it was taking so much time off for a bit of morning sickness.

In fact, I can honestly say I have not had a good nights sleep since I was 3 weeks pregnant (when I first starting throwing up).

But the very fact I am sat here typing means I won't be going in.

And, DH said he feels off-colour (oh dear emoticon)

Oh, that's all you need - a stomach bug.

Good that you are staying off though.

It was a stomach bug from hell! I feel terrible now, like I have flu, but have not been sick for an hour. DH is now poorly, but not vomiting.

And you know what? DS went into his own bedroom last night as one final attempt to see if he will sleep before bringing the cot in and he slept really well , just us who did not because of sorting out dd. typical. In fact, I think DS would have not woken at 3am if DD was not awake being all excitable. just typical. DH was like '2 hours, 2 hours in my own bed as DD asked him to stay with her for the night!

And no sleep, as every time I moved I would be sick this morning, and as soon as I stopped DH collapsed into bed. But I think i will not be going to work tomorrow as whatever this is i don't feel good.

Oh you poor thing

Wish you better

Man, I'm struggling at the mo but I definitely don't envy you. Sorry. That's no consolation at all. Can only wish you all the best and really really hope it all passes soon.

currently I am sat on the sofa with a boy of 11 months intently playing with a cereal bar box, putting them in, taking them out, turning them round, putting them in, and so on. He is making his serious concentrating sounds, which means there will be no sleep for a while.

He did not sleep long enough for his nap and DH/I did not have the strength to fight him for it, so he fell asleep on DH at 5:30pm, and DH let him sleep, then brought him in to me where he wanted boob and promptly went back to sleep , he then woke with an enormous appetite, and is now very much awake.

And I feel like poop. But, I have taken some painkillers to get rid of this horrid flu feeling. Dh has gone to bed.

Pav, no advice (obviously as I am too, fucking clueless) but hope you're feeling better.

Pav,
Are you ok?

hey. I am still here! Bloody hell, yesterday was the worst day ever. and the longest. And, to top it off, DS decided he would stay awake from 1-2 and 3-5:30am .

I feel better today though, thanks to a lie-in period of unconsciousness this morning.

What time is it acceptable to put kids who are bouncing off the walls/clingy/wont leave me along/do what they are told to bed? now?

Oh Pav, I'm really hoping things turn a corner for you soon. After 2 pretty good weeks of sleep DD2 has an awful cough and has just thrown up all over me, so I shall be awake this evening running up and downstairs, no doubt! Argh.....

oh thighs i am sorry to hear that. I think in a way that is worse, as you had a short while of it being ok. I hope she is feeling better soon.

DS is asleep on me. But I know if i move him he will wake up as he has been ultra clingy all day, won't let me put him down/won't sleep so had to drive around for 2 hours to get him to sleep and it took ages.

Now though, the biggest problem I have, right this second is DD. She has had the privalege of DH sleeping up there for a few nights, since she was sick last weekend, then with DS being so difficult I brought him with me (DD has the loft room which has the spare bed in it), and I now have her shouting/crying 'i caaaaant sleeeep on my oooown' over and over.

She was meant to be in bed asleep half hour ago. I put her to bed, with a story, and a sandwich after she played up at dinner time majorly and that was at 6:15pm, since then, DH has read her a story, she has had a poo, a cuddle, and just wont settle. So now, I have two children who won't sleep.

8pm-5:20am (mik) 5:30am-6am
For the first time EVER.

He is not ill
He was not drugged
We did not have ear plugs in so could not hear him
We were not in another house

He was in his cot, next to us, back in our room, until his morning milk, then in with us.

EVERYONE I spoke to about this in the Real World told us it would never work, we were crazy, we would be Making a Rod. He will wake up more, he needed to break the Mummy habit and we needed to Get Tougher not softer, yada yada yada. I have one word to say to you lot. WRONG.