Why is 2yo chatting in cot- it's 4.30am fgs!!

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He has done this for a week now- up at 4.30am either chatting or crying. It's normally 6am, which I can cope with but this is exhausting!

We've justvhad dd (3wks old) so possibly associated with that; but he is napping well still and goes to bed with no fight at 7pm.

Currently gets 2hrs in the afternoon, and seems to really need it (he is very active)

Any suggestions or is this just a phase?(that will be over, quickly!!)

I guess with dd feeding 2hrly I shouldn't care but I do!!

is he a bit hungry and unable to settle?

Wondered that and so have introduced a banana at bedtime. Hebdoes soemtimesnwake hungry, but at this hour if you go in to him, that's it he is up for the day. Earlier and he he would resettle after a snack iykwim.

Sorry for typing- on iPhone whilst bf dd

no problem. impressive multitasking btw Ikwym. They do have a phase of earlier waking but have no idea when this normally falls. ds was a shit sleeper full stop. Am impressed you still have him in a cot tbh.

I would probably leave him if he is just chatting. He is happy and will do no harm being left. If he is crying would he settle to play if you gave him some toys or would that also be it for the day?

Does he wake up himself after a nap or do you wake him up? it might be he needs slightly less sleep at nap time (maybe reduce by 15mins) so that his body needs more sleep at night?

:) he is still in a cot as he (thank goodness) shown no inclination to climb out!!

So dh went in at 5.30amnwhen giggles turned to winges. Any suggestion to stay in his room was met with tantrum, and he has played nicely all morning.

I'm going to have to cut his naptime aren't I :( :( it's my peace and quiet time (rumbled)

Sorry- I wake him from his nap after 2 hrs, he is often in deep sleep still.

persoanlly, I would only cut by 15mins at most. no point in making both of you really grumpy and it might be enough to stretch the night.

Alternatively could you ban dh going in and just leae him to get on with it a bit longer? he might be happy to play, or he might heard people in the house and want up. But if he is settled let him be. he is safe.

Mind you I might be talking complete bollacks as ds didnt nap, could escape the cot and stair gates by the time he was 1 and it was pointless tyring to sleep as the only way to get any sleep was to cosleep so i was there to be climbed all over at first waking.

Lol they are all so different aren't they!

Te annoying thing is he still cries rather than call out or express what he wants, so although we do leave him, he gets v wound up and there is a limit!

Its sounds like you have quite an escape artist!!

They are all different but he does now sleep. which is bliss. And he is very good at playing in his room and letting me have a lie in. It does get easier.

Try the 15mins less, but expect him to be grumpy with it for a few days as his body adjusts. See if it helps at night. It might, it might not. But it is not so radical as to be irraversible if he is no better/ worse with less sleep.