Severely over-tired baby, reflu and Mum smashing things

[nickytwotimes]

Soory it's me again.
for the 2 people who don;t know, ds2 (3 mths) has severe reflux (silent)and is on meds.His sleep is rubbish. He can't nap for more htan 30 mins and in the evenings he screams himself silly from over tiredness.
I have tried all the tips, tryiong to wind him down before he gets too tired, etc. And whatever is done to get him to sleep is kept up - Ie if in car/pram/swing, keep moving, if he nods off on me, he stay there. He has never seen his cot. He isn't keen on feeding to sleep (bf) and he won't take a dummy. The evenings are awful and I can think about nothing else. It is normally midnight when he finally passes out.

PLEASE CAN ANYONE HELP ME to help him get more sleep. I feel like I ma making htings worse all the time.

Oh, and we do nice bedtime routine, etc
fuck all use

Hiya love. Does putting your finger in his mouth help (my son wouldn't take a dummy, but would take my little finger)? And a tiny rocking shaking motion while hold him close in my arms.
You aren't making things worse. Your little one is just in severe pain. Good luck with the meeds - how is it going getting them sorted?

yes, he will suck finger for a bit, then spits it out.
He is in his swing crying atm from tiredness.
i am crying too,.
I hate this I hate this so much

Nothing is helping

I know. And I also know you're doing everything. Extremely loud shushing, and a little patting (not certain if patting helpful for reflux child) worked for my daughter?

I'm on your other thread too. I know you've already tried quite a few of these but can't remember which, sorry. Here are ALL the suggestions that have been made in one handy place:

1. Change meds to omeprazole
2. Cut soya and dairy out of your diet
3. Give colief
4. Drink fennel tea and give baby caraway tea
5. Get a moby wrap
6. Get an Amby Hammock
7. Cranial osteopathy- phone them TODAY and cry down the phone at them so they see you tomorrow
8. Introduce a dummy
9. Tummy/ side sleeping

10. Swaddling 11. you tube clip of Harvey Karp's settling technique 12. tummy tub 13. white noise 14.Ask for Nutramigen prescritption 15. Put in some earplugs or go away for a night and get some sodding sleep 16. feed from bottle instead 17. teething powders/ chamomilla homeopathic remedy 18. vibrating chair or swing 19. painkillers

You probably don't have the energy to start trying a load of new stuff. Give the list to your mum and DH and they can get on it as well.

A friend of mine got her twins who had reflux off to sleep in Baby Bjorn baby bouncers. Pricey but I got one for £40 on ebay.

Any good?

It sounds horrible, BTW. You have my sympathy.

Wow, thanks for the list, hairy! that is great.

I am also going to ask for propranalol fo rmyself.

I cannot get through this without chemical back up!

I wouldn't stop BF if you can avoid it - at least not for regular formula, BM is absorbed more quickly by the stomach so doesn't hang around to cause as much acid - also BM has natural antacid qualities.

Lots of sympathy from mw - evenings are our hardest time with lots and lots of screaming. Not so bad when DH is here as he takes her from me and helps with the other two but complete hell when I am on my own. Will take dummy sometimes from DH but quite often won't - it's worth trying quite a few different dummies by the way.

Reflux support thread is here

Nicky, i've been musing on your situation this evening and I the following thoughts, which you've probably already considered but I wanted to share:

1. is the reason your baby is crying definitely silent reflux and not caused by something else completely or reflux plus something else?

2. my ds got a real bee in his bonnet about feeding when lying on his left-hand side in the afternoon. In the end I had to abandon bf at certain times of day cos he'd just go mental. In the end he went through a phase where he'd only eat sitting opposite me facing me. V uncomfortable but hey ho it worked for him.

3. if he's really bad, have you considered going along to your local a&e and saying he won't stop crying, admit him now and run tests?

Hope your evening is better tonight x

not sure of your location but i have a baby bjorn sitter you could borrow. i am in the southwest scotland, also know a fab cranial osteopath near me.
big hugs sent.

Thak you.
Raejj, yes, sometimes I wonder if it is the reflux or someting more?

However last night, I gave him calpol as he was in apin and he slept from 7pm on and off all night!!
He is happy today too as he is not exhausted.

GOd knows if it'll last, but I will try to enjoy it atm.

raindrop, I live near Ayr! Could you give me the CO's details? My pal's sister does chiropractic on babies, but I'd prefer CO.

Oh Nicky, you have my sympathy, we've had some truly awful evenings with our reflux baby. I think sometimes she cries from reflux, and sometimes from sheer over-tiredness.

What works for us (at the moment, who knows when it'll change!) is giving her her last feed in the bedroom in the dark, sitting in a swivel chair, so we can move gently from side to side without jiggling or bouncing. She sits upright on my knee and the darkness (blackout blinds) means that any overstimulation that's contributed to her overtiredness is cancelled out.

She sleeps in a moses basket propped up on a 45 degree angle.

Hi Nicky. Will he be swaddled at all? Mine has no reflux, but for whatever reason she will not bloody settle without being swaddled like a mummy! Also, we leave the radio on static and it seems to help her to self soothe. I just wrap her up and shove the radio on. I feel for you hun. x

Will post co details tomorrow. She is in dumfries but is fab.

hi here is the link for the osteopath it is rosie we saw she is really good very easy to chat and really comfortable with the babies.
www.dumfries-osteopathic-clinic.co.uk/

My DS had reflux. CO worked really, really well. We had 5 sessions- once a week. I also put the head end of the moses basket at an angle and used infacol. Infant gaviscon is meant to help but you have to be prescribed it and be fairly insistent aparently. DS was getting better at this point so I never bothered.

Thanks!

I tried everything to get DS to sleep but absolutely nothing worked until he switched milk to Nutramigen and started on Omeprazole. Have you had any luck with the paed yet?