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Booking my first ever ski trip- no idea where to start

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piddocktrumperiness · 18/05/2023 08:48

I'm hoping to book a ski trip next Feb half term and really don't know where to start. Two adults, no kids going- my DP has been skiing before, when he was in school- I am a complete novice.
I'd like some help with the following please:

  • Which sites shall I browse?
  • How many days is enough?
  • What resorts or areas in Europe do you recommend?
  • How much do you budget for a trip, all in?

Any other tips, do's and don'ts would be appreciated

OP posts:
QuentininQuarantino · 18/05/2023 08:53

Get your fitness level up before you go, you’ll get much more out of it!

The ecole de ski francais (ESF) is very good and have english speaking classes, but if you can stretch to private instruction you’ll learn much faster.

Ive only ever skied in France and Spain, I love the Spanish ones but they aren’t ideal for beginners going for a week (they’re like weekend jaunts!) so I’d recommend the big French alpine results like Val D’Isere, Thorens etc.

sometimes finding second hand skis and boots on eBay is cheaper than hiring for a week.

feb half term is usually fairly busy on the slopes.

I love skiing but it is so expensive. I got around it by moving to the Pyrenees and making friends with people who have flats there 😜

Radiatorvalves · 18/05/2023 09:01

Do you have to go in Feb half term? It will increase the cost significantly. And will also be busy.

what sort of holiday do you want? Lots of skiing? Apres-ski? Other activities? Self catering or chalet or hotel…

learning to ski I’d go for a week and have minimum of 5 day’s lessons.

if you’re a novice I’d suggest booking a package. Don’t go for a big name resort like Val d’Isere (it’s expensive snd you won’t enjoy much of the area). Instead look for a smaller resort. Remember to add cost of ski pass (there may be a reduced cost for a beginner area) and ski/boot/helmet hire.

enjoy!

Scottishskifun · 18/05/2023 09:08

Is there a reason to go in Feb half term if no children?
It's a lot more expensive and a lot busier!

The last few years has been a bit of a strange season with snow conditions so I would suggest going up higher anything over 1800m is more likely to be snow sure.

If you have never done it before you will only need the smaller area pass rather then a huge mountain area as you just won't use it.

We like Montgenevere it's France but right on the Italian border which keeps costs down. It tends to be more apartments and self catering.
But you might be better in one of the big resorts with other things going on as you are highly likely to be tired. Austria tends to be hotel based or self catering accommodation. Andorra is cheap whilst there tends to be hotel based. Switzerland is extremely expensive. Italy is cheapest generally but has struggled with snow last few years. Eastern Europe also has resorts which are cheaper but again can be hit or miss with snow. Scandinavia has been the most snow reliable but this is expensive again.
Would always recommend morning lessons compared to afternoon as the snow conditions tend to be better.

Chalets there are a lot of good resorts and variations everything from high luxury to more basic the good thing about self catered is someone else cooks and cleans!

Ski gear I would get it from Vinted you will need base layers under ski trousers. A buff/neck fleece helps and light layers such as zip up fleeces etc.

I would say hiring if just starting out is better as boot fit depends on your feet shape your not going to know until you try some out and ski carriage is roughly £60 whereas your between £70-100 to hire for the week.

If you have a dry slope or snowdome nearby then I would take a few lessons if you can before you go - means you will at least be used to them on your feet!

xyzandabc · 18/05/2023 09:08

Does one of you work in a school, hence having to go at half term? If not, then do not go at half term, it's expensive and hugely busy.

I've only ever been to Switzerland and North America and wouldn't recommend either as a beginner for a week. Switzerland too expensive, north America too far for just a week.

I would recommend getting fit and having some lessons at an indoor ski slope in the UK before you go if you are near enough to one. Most offer either single hour lessons or intensive day packages. If you can at least do a snow plough and stop before your holiday then you might be able to get to some more interesting and varied slopes by the end of the week.

FlounderingFruitcake · 18/05/2023 09:17

Go for a week. The equals 6 days skiing which is long enough to get the hang of it. Book lessons with an English ski school, don’t choose ESF if you pick France. Small group lessons every day is good.

A package is good first timers. Crystal is a good starting point for browsing. I would go hotel over chalet as you don’t have kids or self catering apartment if on a tight budget. In case you decide skiing really isn’t your thing I’d go for a big resort with lots to do. In France maybe Tignes, Val Thorens or Meribel.

Feb half term is the most expensive and busiest week to go. Even if you’re teachers so tied to school hols I’d look at Easter instead, you’ll have more sunshine and it’ll save a lot of money, just go high to ensure plenty of snow.

Get your fitness levels up before you go to make the most of it! Book somewhere with a hot tub if budget permits and pack the ibuprofen. You will feel sore!

ReviewingTheSituation · 18/05/2023 09:30

I presume you work in a school and that's why you're going at half term? If you can avoid that week, it would make a big difference to price!

To answer your questions:

  • Which sites shall I browse?
For your first trip, I would recommend a package. Skiing is easy enough to arrange when you've got the measure of if, but when it's all new there's a lot to be said for just turning up and having someone else do the thinking. Inghams or Crystal are probably the best ones to go with. I have used skiline a few times - they are very good at sifting through all the package deals to help find something suitable for you.
  • How many days is enough?
In peak season, you'll struggle to sort anything less than a week, Most accommodation won't take a booking of less than that, and midweek travel is harder. That means you have 6 days on the slopes. That's enough to get you going and make some progress. Even if you could book for less than that, the trip will be over before you've started, and you won't achieve much.
  • What resorts or areas in Europe do you recommend?
This is a 'how long is a piece of string' question - and all depends who you ask! For your first trip, I would avoid the big French ski areas - mainly because they are all super-busy at half term and lift passes tend to be really expensive as they cover a huge area, which will be of no use to you on your first trip. So I'd go for a smaller resort, as you don't need huge KMs of slopes. I'm a big fan of Austria and Italy over France (have skied in France a few times for comparison though), but to go for whole countries is a bit of a sweeping generalisation! The main thing you'll want is a decent ski school and access to a good number of blue slopes. It will also depend on your budget, how long you want to spend on a transfer coach, what kind of accommodation you want... lots of things. Hopefully you'll get a good number of points of view on this thread and you can build up a picture of what you might want to consider.
  • How much do you budget for a trip, all in?
At half term, I don't know what you'd expect to pay, so will leave that to others! You'll need to factor in the cost of the package, plus equipment hire (tour operators usually offer good rates for that), lift pass, ski lessons, lunches etc.

Other things to think about...

The main thing is what kind of accommodation you want. Your options are broadly:
Self catering (reasonably rare in a TO package) - the cheapest way to do it, but I would avoid it on your first trip. The last thing you'll want to do is cook, and eating out can feel like a bit of an undertaking (when I'm tired, the last thing I want to do is to put all my warm clothes back on to go out, trudge around looking for somewhere to go, hope they have space, etc etc)

Half board in a hotel - the most common option, and is exactly what it says. Huge variation within this (basic, unexciting but generally tasty food , right up to gourmet 7 course dinners!)

Chalet catering - more seen in France than elsewhere, and not as common as it used to be (thanks to Brexit), but typically smaller than a hotel and meals eaten more 'family style' - round a table with other guests. Chalets often have some shared living space too, so you have somewhere to relax. And there is tea and cake when you come off the slopes.

Skiing 'stuff' - you'll need some gear - trousers and jacket being the main ones, but also decent ski socks and some thermals/layers. Plus gloves and goggles.
I'd look on Vinted/ebay/marketplace for some of this. Or if you have friends who go, maybe they'll lend you some stuff. I have lent all my thermals to friends going before (but I'd be less inclined to lend things that might get lost like gloves or goggles).

The first time you wear ski boots is a shock to the system! If you can, it might be worth a trip to a snow dome - just to get the feel of the boots/skis etc. It will make your first morning less traumatic.

And finally - prepared to get addicted! We went 'just once' 14 years ago, with some friends, just to 'see what it's like'. And now we go pretty much every year. I am the world's biggest wuss, a huge scaredy cat, a total control freak and (when I started) not very sporty... but there's something about being out in the lovely fresh air, in the stunning scenery, with only one thing to think about that just makes for an amazing holiday. I absolutely love it!

FlounderingFruitcake · 18/05/2023 09:52

Oh one more thing- as beginners don’t go for ski in/ski out unless you’re absolutely certain there’s also an easy walking route or there’s a driver provided. Quite often you find the only alternative to the 30 second ski is a long roundabout walk which is too far in ski boots and carrying equipment.

piddocktrumperiness · 18/05/2023 09:54

Thanks everyone- I will have a look

Yes I do work in a school :(
Easter is difficult as it is exam season so I typically do revision sessions throughout the period. Feb seems to be the only time we can go. Bummer really as I know it will be more expensive.
In terms of accommodation, I think we'd be happy for half board but then again tbh if we're on the slopes or outside most of the time we won't need anything fancy. Could use the difference in money eating one nice meal out a day and sarnies or whatever in the day.

Seeing as it would be my first time I do quite like to experience the après ski. I know myself, I am not good with heights (or the cold actually) but I want to give it a proper go as this is on my bucket list and it looks like a lot of fun. I love the snow and am really excited to make this happen.
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I've so far saved £1500 for myself, will that take me far or am I unrealistic?

OP posts:
Radiatorvalves · 18/05/2023 11:00

1500 isn’t a huge amount, but I suggest you look at a few companies eg Crystal and see what you get. Self catering will definitely help.

think about lesser known places. Eg a coffee on slopes in courcheval is at least 5€, whereas in smaller French resorts it will be a lot cheaper. Italy tends to be better value. And avoid Switzerland! Bulgaria and Andorra may also be options for you.

fluffiphlox · 18/05/2023 11:05

French ski resorts are at their busiest during February.

FlounderingFruitcake · 18/05/2023 11:07

I've so far saved £1500 for myself, will that take me far or am I unrealistic?
Easyjet flights from London to Geneva and the other usual suspects at Feb HT are already almost £700-800pp when you add on a suitcase, which you’ll need as ski clothes are bulky. So that doesn’t leave enough leftover for transfers, accommodation, ski hire, lift passes and spending money. But outside of the French alps, if you have a different departure airport and/or can find a decent package then maybe?! I would have thought you’d want about 3k per head though. It could be done for less but half term is £££ and presuming you want budget to enjoy some apres in a lively resort!

BiddyPop · 18/05/2023 12:13

We booked through specialist travel agent. Small resort (we had a 9 year old and weren't remotely interested in Apres ski even if just ourselves). Good ski school with English speaking classes. Hotel with a pool (god send to relax once off slopes!).

We also got fit and did some lessons here at home on dry slope before we went which really helped.

BiddyPop · 18/05/2023 12:18

We went for 7 nights, had 6 days ski school. Rented gear there although bought goggles. Had some decent outdoor gear - thermals, hiking boots etc but needed outer layers and more thermals - gathered those over months including end of season sales previous summer. Hiking boots were fine for walking around resort - didn't need snow boots.

ChocChipHandbag · 18/05/2023 18:53

Why don't you go during the Christmas holidays? As long as you pick somewhere high with snow cannons there will be enough snow. We went early January this year, to Champoluc in Italy, it was great.

Newgirls · 18/05/2023 18:57

Get yourself to a snow indoor slope for lessons before you book. See if you like it first.

if going in Feb half term book your ski and boot hire before you go. Don’t buy on eBay as you need the shop to help you if any problems.

you could book just 5 nights to bring cost down? It’s pretty tiring so you might not want a whole week.

Scottishskifun · 18/05/2023 18:58

Have you checked deals for new year?
We went 5 years ago at New Year got a catered chalet including flights in La Plagne for £650 each it's a high up enough resort to have reasonable coverage.

If wanting a bit of apres then check out Alp du Huez or les Duez Alps or again Montgenevere.

HappiDaze · 18/05/2023 19:25

I wouldn't book too much in advance in case they don't have snow or at least book somewhere that's high and has decent snow machines

I've always skied in Austria or Switzerland which I love

ReviewingTheSituation · 18/05/2023 20:03

HappiDaze · 18/05/2023 19:25

I wouldn't book too much in advance in case they don't have snow or at least book somewhere that's high and has decent snow machines

I've always skied in Austria or Switzerland which I love

If OP wants to go in half term then she can't chance leaving it until the season has started before booking! If it was Christmas week that would be different, but there will be nothing left for HT by the time it snows in the alps.

crumpet · 18/05/2023 20:08

Go with a package as others have said. The likes of Crystal will also indicate which resorts are really good for beginners. A week is fine. Think about your other interests- do you want a big resort with lots to do, a small village typical of the region, would you prefer French, Austrian or Italian food?

skilikeagirl · 18/05/2023 21:42

You can’t really book 5 nights easily in most places in half term as there is a big week to week thing going on especially if you are going anywhere where there are lots of others on school holidays. I think I’d stick with a package (or somewhere recommended by other beginners as easy for new skiers to get started). I just booked my kids’ ski school for half term and Easter 24 but then I’m fussy about it all and know exactly what I want. But think if you want a private lesson for the whole family (these can be very busy in school holidays) or kids to do ski school etc.

Rainydayparade · 18/05/2023 22:27

I would get a package deal with a company that runs Sunday to Sunday trips. Feb half term saturday transfer can be rough.

Also a decent height of ski area, maybe look at Val Thorens as it’s high and a massive area so room to spread out! It’s also good value with fun apres. The folie is also a short ski back (got to experience that if you want the apres experience!)

Get booked in early, and ski lessons booked in as it will get busy. Second hand gear from Vinted, this is a good time of year to buy as lots of people clearing out and not many people buying.

Food can be cheap if you’re smart, snack bar, takeaways etc. It seems like a lot of faf to start with if you’re new to it with passes, gear and getting to grips learning but after a few days you will settle into it and hopefully enjoy!

RhubarbFairy · 19/05/2023 18:21

£3k a head mentioned above is nuts.

We went to Austria at Christmas and paid £2.5k for a luxury aparthotel. The whole thing only came in at £5.5k for four of us, and that includes 6 days of lessons for two children!

OP, half term will be expensive in terms of flights and accommodation, but lesson prices, ski hire and lift passes stay the same throughout the season.

You will pay extra to book with a Tour Operator like Crystal or Ingams. If you've previously booked DIY holidays, it's pretty simple to do. Just have your checklist of what you need to book. Alternatively, you may prefer to let them do all the work.

Checklist.

Ski hire
Lessons (you can book ski hire directly with some ski schools, so that makes things simpler)
Travel (train/plane/car)
Transfers
Accommodation
Lift passes.

Easter will be warmer than Christmas and February if you're not good with the cold, but I understand your point about revision sessions. However, as Easter is two weeks, would you consider dropping those to just one week and getting away for a break the other week?

If it's just the two of you, I'd recommend sharing a private instructor. Often, the private lesson price will be for up to two people anyway, so it's cheaper. You're looking at around €100 for a 2 hour lesson. When DH and I started, we had a private instructor for 3 mornings (6 hours total) and spent the rest of the time pootling about on the nursery slope or easy blues, just getting a feel for it. You'll progress quicker with focused tuition and have more freedom for the rest of your days.

We learned to ski in Rauris in Austria, which is a tiny resort. Hard to get lost there. It's an hour from Salzburg by train. Just down the road is Zell Am See, which has a fabulous reputation and could be worth exploring further. Also accessible by train from Salzburg. These would be good options for a February trip, but not for Easter.

We went to Les Arcs at Easter, and loved it. But it's one of the French megaresorts, and I'm told it's insane at half term. However, it's a great Easter resort as it was much quieter and fabulous for beginners. If you want après, you'll love La Folie Douce.

In terms of cost, we are a family of 4 and usually expect to pay circa £1000 per head. I also work in a school so am restricted to school holidays. So you're not miles away with your savings to be honest.

Les Arcs cost about £3.5k for four people for the week. £400 of that was lessons for the DC.

It'll approximately break down as
Lift passes: £250pp
Lessons £100 per 2 hour lesson
Ski hire: £50pp

Travel and accommodation are the variables. Though I managed to secure a 2 bed apartment in Arc 1800 for £360 for the week at Easter via VRBO. Vastly different to the accommodation at Christmas. Still a clean bed and shower and all the facilities we needed. We drove to Les Arcs, which was cheaper per head than airport parking/flights/transfers.

RhubarbFairy · 19/05/2023 18:27

Oh. And we found that Austria was cheaper than France whilst on the mountain.

Ebay, Vinted and FB marketplace are your places to go for your salopettes and jackets. I wear a mixture of proper merino base 6 my lined leggings from Primark underneath my salopettes.

SportsDirect do gloves, and Aldi and Lidl often have ski stuff in the muffle, where you can buy the lot.
DH went for a Mountain Watehouse package. They do a gloves/salopettes/jacket combo for about £90. Someone gave me a brand new jacket, and my salopettes were £3 locally.

Buy your own helmets (you can get them in Decathalon for about £20). No one else's sweaty head will have graced it, and it won't have had any knocks.

FlounderingFruitcake · 19/05/2023 18:37

Is 3k pp for Feb HT really that nuts? Easter and Christmas are usually a lot cheaper so there’s not really any comparison. Assuming OP goes to France… The flights from london to Geneva are already almost £800. 5 days of lessons in the English school we use is 425 euros, 6 day lift pass for Tignes-Val d’Isere 396 euros (no option to buy Val D only except on 1 day passes). I own skis but the rental was I think about 150 euros pp. I’m already at about £1700 and that doesn’t include accommodation, transfers, getting to the airport in the UK or any food or drink. Maybe Austria is cheaper though, I would LOVE to go as it looks ace but alas am married to a frenchman who won’t hear of it!

RhubarbFairy · 19/05/2023 19:33

FlounderingFruitcake · 19/05/2023 18:37

Is 3k pp for Feb HT really that nuts? Easter and Christmas are usually a lot cheaper so there’s not really any comparison. Assuming OP goes to France… The flights from london to Geneva are already almost £800. 5 days of lessons in the English school we use is 425 euros, 6 day lift pass for Tignes-Val d’Isere 396 euros (no option to buy Val D only except on 1 day passes). I own skis but the rental was I think about 150 euros pp. I’m already at about £1700 and that doesn’t include accommodation, transfers, getting to the airport in the UK or any food or drink. Maybe Austria is cheaper though, I would LOVE to go as it looks ace but alas am married to a frenchman who won’t hear of it!

Yeah, it is. There's alternatives that don't include buying a pass for a massive ski area. We only went for the LA pass rather than the Paradiski pass, for example, because we were first-timers there, so just the one huge resort was more than enough to keep us occupied. That brought the pass down to around £250 per adult rather than closer to £400.

That £800 is for return flights for two people. The OP says she's got £1500 for her. Presumably, she's not funding the entire trip, so her DP will pay his half of the flights. That takes it down to £400 for her.

Is £150pp for Premium ski hire? We paid £147 for 4 of us (I own my own boots, so 3 x boots, 4 x skis, and poles) to hire for the week. We went for the Bronze package as it was only werk 3 on snow. Bronze or Basic packages are fine for beginners.

We used Evolution 2 in Arc 1800. £400 for 2 children for 6 mornings.

I posted this breakdown on another thread.

Fuel/tunnel/tolls: approx £450 return* *DH tells me this was closer to £600
Ski/pole hire x 4/boot hire x 3: £147
2 bed apartment, self-catering booked via VRBO: £368
Overnight hotel each way as we broke the journey up: £170 total
Ski lessons for 6 mornings for 2 children: £400 total
Ski passes x 4: £876
Snow socks: £30 (but will do us for future trips too, and we didn't need them).
And around £1000 in spending money, including food shopping, several lunches out, and beers and crepes on the mountain during the day.
We could have saved a further £200 by shopping at the Lidl opposite out overnight hotel rather than at the shop in 1800, which was expensive. We've learned for next time, and that's what we'll do.

Austria was cheaper on the mountain (certainly at the small resort we were at), but similarly priced with everything else. The lift pass at LA was a little more expensive, but DH looked it at from another perspective. He said it was better value as it served a larger area. He felt in hindsight that the pass for the small ski area was expensive for what it was.