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Snowchains?!

36 replies

ScarlettInSpace · 05/01/2016 12:12

We are driving to the Vosges in Feb & I understand its a legal requirement in France to have snowchains, we looked online last night and because I have big wheels they are coming up around £99 Shock

Does anyone know if they are cheaper & readily available on the other side of the channel? We are getting off the ferry in Calais and don't want to have to stray too much from the route planner!

TIA

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clam · 15/01/2016 20:43

Mountain resorts will specify whether their roads have chains 'obligatoire' or simply recommended. In fact, I think there's a website where you can hone in what the roadside message boards are saying too.

sleepwhenidie · 16/01/2016 13:15

They do Clam but of course the requirement can change from recommended to obligatory overnight. When chains are required to be on, police do check and won't allow you to proceed without them, as pp said, you don't want to be them!

clam · 16/01/2016 13:51

Sure, I know that. Just musing, really. As I said earlier, the hassle/expense of equipping yourself is far less than the hassle of being caught short. And at least, if you're driving your own car, you can get decent chains that are easier to fit than those provided by rental agents.

Archfarchnad · 17/01/2016 17:05

One very important point about driving in France, Germany, Austria etc is the issue of winter tyres as well as snow chains. NewNew mentioned above that they are compulsory in Germany - the situation is a bit more complex than that. They're not actually compulsory throughout winter, only when the road conditions demand it, ie for snow, slush and ice. So if the road is absolutely clear you're not obliged to use them. In fact, although everyone calls them Winterreifen, the official name is S+M Reifen (stop sniggering at the back) für Schnee und Matsch. BUT, in practice just about everyone in Central Europe will have winter tyres or all-weather tyres on throughout winter (we get ours changed over every April and October), and they make a huge difference in the grip it gives the road.

What this means is that if you're driving along up in the Alps, you might be deciding not to put your snow chains on because nobody else has them on yet, but in fact they can wait longer before the snow chains are needed because they have better grip using winter tyres, IYSWIM. So you might be lulled into an unwarranted security. With summer tyres you absolutely have to put the snow chains on the moment you get to a snow-covered road (don't you? - surely you'd have no traction otherwise).

When we went skiing in the Czech Republic last year it was notable that virtually nobody was using chains to get around the mountain villages on a thick layer of compacted snow; the winter tyres were enough to deal with that. Same applies to our little side street here in Central Europe; we get snow every year, and the main road is kept completely clear of snow, but our little side street is uncleared and it would be impassable on summer tyres.

We didn't use our snow chains last year because of the winter tyres, but we also had a pile of grit in the boot and a shovel just in case we got stuck at any point and needed extra traction. Wasn't needed in the end.

sparechange · 17/01/2016 17:09

But them here...
We managed to get some on line for about £40 for our 4x4
There are cheap ones that are a pain to fit, and £200 ones which are easy to fit
We were told that when it starts snowing heavily enough for the gendarmes to insist they are fitted, enterprising people wait in the lay-bys and charge €20 a pop to fit them

It's a gamble, and we may have ended up struggling with them ourselves, but in the end, it wasn't snowing on our way out, and we left in the middle of the night on the way back to be down the mountain before the predicted snow started...

MrsUltra · 17/01/2016 18:27

Excellent point Archfarchnad.
Since I have put winter tyres on the car I have not needed the chains for the last annoying bit of road to my final destination whereas I used to when I had summer tyres.
I also keep grit in the boot - useful for a little extra help getting out of the parking space at the end of the week.

clam · 17/01/2016 18:49

I remember thinking "But no one else has got chains on" once, when all these cars were sailing up the hill past us, as we surveyed the heap of tangled grey metal the hire company had given us. Of course, they'd all have had winter tyres.

We only had 1km left to travel and we chanced it. We were lucky, but I wouldn't do that again.

IsletsOfLangerhans · 18/01/2016 16:04

Thanks for the Costco suggestion Pesto - got sorted yesterday! Also got to test out our new winter tyres on the snow at the weekend (fitted on Saturday morning!). They make an incredible difference......

PestoSkiissimos · 18/01/2016 17:15

Yay!! Pleased to have been of assistance.

Enjoy your new winter tyres Smile

Alibabsandthe40Musketeers · 18/01/2016 17:56

You need winter tyres and snow chains.

£99 is really not expensive, especially not when set against the cost of a skiing holiday. Don't ruin your trip trying to scrimp on the essential kit to get you there safely!

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