If you (still) feel the need to discuss Moldies, please do it here so folks can hide this if they want to.

[LittleDonkeyCarrieMaryMumsnet]

Well hopefully the title says it all. There's been a suggestion, and we agree, that as we did with Baby P and the Mc Canns we just have one thread where anyone who feels they still have anything to add on this subject can post and those who'd rather move on can hide it away.

It feels strange to put this thread in site stuff as we are definitely not wanting to encourage further discussion of Moldies (we have presents to wrap too you know ) but we weren't sure where else to put it.

We will delete any new Moldies threads that are started, so please feel free to report them in case we miss any (what with wrapping the presents and all...)

And if you do want to carry on the discussion please remember that Mumsnet's here to make everyone's lives easier and not the reverse, and that Christmas is a time of goodwill to all mumsnetters past, present and future

Thanks,
MNHQ

What's up SEA? Who has made a personal attack?

ah was in relation to another comment on a pulled thread. but still nasty

Liffey's comment? Right, I didn't see it.
Still am surprised the whole thread went rather than just the post as usual. Maybe MN has a standard rule - more than 60% of posts deleted, whole thread goes

and i hope you're ok expat, i know you're made of stern stuff but still

maybe someone has been at the christmas sherry all afternoon

slanging match
this is going nowhere

solidgoldstuffingballs> "MP: Don't eat Pringles. They really will tear you a new one."

[gag]

'BBBee on Tue 23-Dec-08 18:58:55
custy - because when i first found out about mouldies (gingham ribbon - remember) and I had not been on mumsnet much so i asked someone who i know well about it and she told me (apologetically) that she was on it and had put me forward but they had said no.'

I find it so shocking after a comment like that that people are still defending their forum

oh stop fanning the flames.. ho ho ho

how's that toilet brush mp? Although the fact you own one at all is a whole new thread!

well SEE this is a thread to discuss it isn't it?!!

I am quite worried about the flood plains in the SouthWest, MP, after your, er, blockage shifted downstream.

yes lucy jones indeed.

perhaps if this suject is annoying people they should use the hide button or just ignore it - i think that was why MNHQ put it into one thread, for the people who are fed up - which is understandable.

some comments are hard to ignore

surely not my comment southeasteastra?

you see I started off thinking all this was a fuss about nothing but then after reading BBBee's post I'm starting to see why people are so upset

no, a very nasty comment made on another (pulled) thread which mummiesnet agrees with

oh right, sorry didn't see that one

Happy Christmas revjustabout. You have acted rather beautifully throughout this debacle, despite some rather orrible name calling.

I feel very sad that I may have lost a couple of people i liked a lot on MN for good now, merely by expressing sadness and hurt at the whole thing. Baffling and frustrating but nothing i can do about it. Night all.

but i wasn't upset. i can understand that other people might be but i wasn't - but i am not here very much. i think it was partly because they maybe didn't recognise me you see. i think they wanted people they knew.

i didn;t mind.

I only wished to explain my reasons for joining, never for one moment did I ever think I was doing something underhand.
I regret nice folks are upset, understand why but refuse to take the blame on my shoulders.

Oddly this saga has brought the best and worst out of mumsnet.
If people are prepared to write someone off solely for belonging, then that says as much about them as it does about me.

so you didn't reject people suggested to join then Piffle?

(sorry BBBee , I'm really glad you weren't upset, it just seems so cruel!)

I only made my 1st post Saturday Lucy
But joined ages ago
Have never been involved in any nomination or veto process nor would I wish to be.

I haven't posted on this subject t date although I think that I have read more than enough on the subject. I know (or at least I think) that things are starting to dye own a little. But I need to get this off my chest for my own sanity. most likely it will be ignored...but that is fine.

I am upset by this....OK not by the standards of other RL events that have and will upset me - but I am upset - along with others.

I am feeling the emotions that one would feel after finding out about their DP/DH having an affair (and yes I do know from experience what those emotions are)...I think CD has already used this as an alalogy. It is not the fact that it is there ...it is the fact that it is (was) a secret. It is the fact that when it was previously exposed (by Gibbon Ribbon or whatever) it was all brushed under the carpet "there is nothing going on, honest guv" - and that there was apparently a bit of jest about "managing to put them off the scent" on the Moldies board. And now that it is well in the open there are some paralells with the "we didn't go all the way" type comments you might excepct to hear from a cheating partner with the variations on the vetoing/nomination/do we talk about MN...just trying to cover your backs- or at least that is the way that I perceive it - becuse that is all I have - perceptions. And now it seems that one way to get an invite was to flounce from here...it feels as though they are poaching the flouncers and then laughing in our face.

There have been posters that have said that they don't understand teh fuss....and yes that sounds like a rational thing to say..I don't understand fully why I am so upset either. But then we see it said so often that MN is an addictive place to be....if you took a bottle of an alcoholic's whiskey and took the lid off allowing some to evapuourate - they would notice that some was disappearing...but would not be able to see where it has gone. That is how I was feeling a couple of weeks ago with a few big names noticeably not being around so much...having "evapurated from teh bottle". But all this just feels so much more like you are taking that bottle of whiskey and tipping it down the sink in front of the alcoholic...so rubbing their nose in it. So taking that thing that they are addicted to and putting it down the drain and out of reach...that is why it hurts...because of the addiction. And maybe this has woken me up to teh extent of the addiction.

I am shocked at some of the names who are involved...I am shocked at some that aren't..I am shocked that some have felt that they do have to leave MN because of it. Thing is that of all of the names I have heard confirming their involvement I have enjoyed their company on MN. I shall miss their company on MN - be it through de-registering or through posting less. I wonder in some cases whether the de-registering is down to the guilt of what they have done...I guess we will never know.

There have been those who have said that tehy still post here...yes that may well be true. And I can see the benefits of a closed forum - I truely can...but I would like to bet that not all of the posts over there are of a nature that needs that closed atmosphere...those are the posts which MN is missing. Thing is every post over there is a post that isn't on here for us to enjoy, or help with or be a part of the discussion....so to my mind that board is in direct competition with MN IMO.

So why do I care about all of this...I honestly don't know. cos TBH I don't want to be a member...i wouldn't want to be a memember....I think it just comes down to the addiction and the "affair" that I described above....maybe this will make mee think again about whether I review my own relationship with this board - for my own sanity....

It wasn't nasty. It's a pity it's been deleted because now its alleged nastiness will grow wings. It was challenging a certain poster's continued abrasiveness though. But lordalive I have seen four hundred times worse many many times.

Interesting policy mumsnet has. About five thousand angry words from THE STALWART of mumsnet (sorry, former stalwart who defected) and then two posts from me asking why is said stalwart always so angry and contemptuous, and the whole thread is pulled.

NO chance the stalwart will be upset, so I wouldn't worry about that! She is indeed made of stern stuff and in fact bated me to 'bring it on'

So, just in case anybody thought we were all equally important in MNHQ's eyes, we are not. The Stalwart is more equal.