If you (still) feel the need to discuss Moldies, please do it here so folks can hide this if they want to.

[LittleDonkeyCarrieMaryMumsnet]

Well hopefully the title says it all. There's been a suggestion, and we agree, that as we did with Baby P and the Mc Canns we just have one thread where anyone who feels they still have anything to add on this subject can post and those who'd rather move on can hide it away.

It feels strange to put this thread in site stuff as we are definitely not wanting to encourage further discussion of Moldies (we have presents to wrap too you know ) but we weren't sure where else to put it.

We will delete any new Moldies threads that are started, so please feel free to report them in case we miss any (what with wrapping the presents and all...)

And if you do want to carry on the discussion please remember that Mumsnet's here to make everyone's lives easier and not the reverse, and that Christmas is a time of goodwill to all mumsnetters past, present and future

Thanks,
MNHQ

Am happy to let people pissed off.

Not happy with the personal attacks, especially on people who aren't here to defend themselves.

And also not happy at the "you're all snide, unpleasant and bitchy" stuff either - think about some of the people you know to be Moldies and then ask yourself if it WAS snide, unpleasant and bitchy, would they be involved in it? And I'm clearly not including myself in that, since I know at least a dozen of you loathe me

By VVVQ:

"Yes, the ones who were gracious, kind, and lacking in self-indulgence got an apology"

I'm sorry. I am really trying to walk away from this thing, and posted light heartedly about not being sent an apology (or asked to join Moldies or the Daughters of Mediocrity), but this kind of post is just so inflammatory.

The inference, VVVQ, is tht somehow I have, during this whole debacle, been ungracious, unkind and self-indulgent.

Well, I'm sorry if this whole thing hurt me. Perhaps that was a tad self-indulgent, although one can't always help being hurt by things. But I certainly haven't been ungracious or unkind and I resent this accusation.

Now, rant over. I'm off to have a coffee and open (yet another) box of chocolates.

hunker, Moldies are people you know. Like MNers. There will be clever people and dumb people and kind people and snide people in Moldies, just as there are on MN.

You're claiming that all Moldies are lovely which is just as fatuous as claiming that all Moldies are horrible.

Oh, and Sheiky - very, very sorry about your friend. I have a friend who, at the age of 51, who has just been diagnosed with aggressive and invasive breast cancer.

So yes, there are other probably much more important things going on.

But it doesn't stop me from being hurt.

Mmm chocolates.

DP and I worked out last night that apart from Xmas lunch, we haven't eaten a proper meal since last Monday

This is because we have been too full from eating all the crap. We had a tin of Roses for dinner over two days last week

[fat]

syb...i'm so sorry, that's very sad news

No, Quattro, I really wasn't. I was attempting to give people who are determined to tar all Moldies with the same brush pause for thought.

I'm off for a bit - this is getting even more twisted than ever [astonishing]

I think anyone Moldie posting on this thread will simply add fuel to the fire, actually, because people just want to have a bit of a shout about stuff without anyone saying, "Hang on a mo, that's not right/not how it happened".

So, as you were! Enjoy.

I wonder which paper will be next to 'out' this load of shite earth shattering story?

For some reason I think the Sun will put it on P3, next to lots of topless 'yummy mummies'....

you know my dh said to me last night;

why do you spend so much time on mumsnet?

me;...i don't know?

dh;...who are they?

me;...haven't got a clue...will never meet any of them.

dh;...so why do they take up so much of your time & energy?

i just looked at him....couldn't answer that one.....maybe we all need to shut down and get on with RL

HM, I think the "people who aren't here to defend themselves" thing doesn't stand up too well. Nothing to stop said posters coming back and dealing with such comments directly if they can be bothered.

There is a whole extra set of issues to do with what is written on the private Moldies board as you know, which means that all sorts of personal attacks can be made with no reciprocal opportunity for redress.

Sadly, I don't have your warm feeling about the attitudes of some (a minority clearly) of the other Moldies.

To steal from Warren Buffett, now the tide is out it is obvious who has been swimming without a costume.

To the Editor of The Sun:

Please describe me as "Sheiky, 21, who is a 6ft leggy blonde and successful model" or I will sue.
TIA

that would be something to see. topless yummy mummys. Any volunteers
dh can't believe its made 3 newspapers!

Sunday Independent, New Zealand Thingy, Mail, Telegraph.

Four papers including one antipodean one.

Perhaps we should stage a duel and sell the photo rights to Hello.

Am prepared to throw down the gauntlet at a Moldies foot (providing the weapon is pistols).

My dh can't believe all 3 papers have made such a balls up of the quotes either.

I watched an amazing programme on Perkin Warbeck the other day...
Now thats someone who used a pseudonym for the right reasons...

'I think the other inference is that moldies are gracious, kind and lacking in self-indulgence or at least are the arbiters of such things,'

oh, so thats why I dint get any invite then

have to laugh as a NZ paper running the story. Slow sheep day or something....?

are the quotes maybe from the poster above or underneath? perhaps they ahve problems with the MN layout?

you mean you aren't a 6 foot leggy blonde?

Am I the only one who thinks it's just a bit superior to be sending out apologies?

"sorry for the oversight and all, but you're still not getting an invite to our special club"

....that's supposed to make people feel better, how?

and like the existence of the whole other website (not the separate area of MN that has been quoted in the papers that no-one seems to have picked up on) and exclusion of some posters who feel they have been left behind by their so called friends, word of the select apologies was bound to get out as well

and apologies from me if this is a bit behind, but with three children to run around after I'm struggling to catch up

mumofbaby, you've only been on MN for a few days so it was unlikely you would have heard of moldies as the row started, as sheik says, 10 days ago. It is, as noted above, a separate website and nothing to do with MNHQ so their condoning of it, or otherwise, isn't really an issue.

Now, how about some sex on the beach

Sheik, so sorry for your friend .

I've been racking my brains trying to think of how we can exploit the laziness and stupidity of those journos.

If you see me starting a thread entitled "The world is flat", please join it for a ruck, and see how far the debate will go before it makes the front page.

Of course we could discuss the situation in Gaza or Zim, but apparently that's not real news......

"think about some of the people you know to be Moldies and then ask yourself if it WAS snide, unpleasant and bitchy, would they be involved in it?"

I am thinking about some of those people - that's why I still feel sad about the whole sorry mess. It just goes to show that you really don't know anything at all about people you have only met online.

No Daisy - you're not the only one!

Ok, though I may not be 'qualified' to make a comment on this and have certainly not followed this whole thing through from beginning to end, one thing occurs to me.

A couple of years ago a row blew up on MN because mothers of children with SN felt that they needed a private group to post on, because of insensitive comments directed at them here. I think there was a suggeston that the SN board should somehow be more private although I don't remember exact details.

I distinctly remember some people (who are now trying to defend the idea of a moldie board) strongly objecting to this at the time...