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If you (still) feel the need to discuss Moldies, please do it here so folks can hide this if they want to.

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LittleDonkeyCarrieMaryMumsnet · 23/12/2008 12:47

Well hopefully the title says it all. There's been a suggestion, and we agree, that as we did with Baby P and the Mc Canns we just have one thread where anyone who feels they still have anything to add on this subject can post and those who'd rather move on can hide it away.

It feels strange to put this thread in site stuff as we are definitely not wanting to encourage further discussion of Moldies (we have presents to wrap too you know ) but we weren't sure where else to put it.

We will delete any new Moldies threads that are started, so please feel free to report them in case we miss any (what with wrapping the presents and all...)

And if you do want to carry on the discussion please remember that Mumsnet's here to make everyone's lives easier and not the reverse, and that Christmas is a time of goodwill to all mumsnetters past, present and future

Thanks,
MNHQ

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morningpaper · 28/12/2008 18:40

This feels like it might be about something else.

you are right

we need a psychoanalyst

let's wait until one gets back from therapy and they can talk us through to some sort of closure

hunkermunker · 28/12/2008 18:40

Sheesh.

Am off out.

Really wasn't having a go at Rev - have nothing personally against her, or any of you.

Tortington · 28/12/2008 18:40

tiktok doesn't post on a lot else to be fair. some maybe self appointed experts but some are kind of generaly assigned that role from others who gather that they have lots of knowledge and wisdom in that area - am thinking hunker and BF, aitch and BLW, and a lot more - some do post across the board and some don't - there is a HR font of knowledge that we all know for instnace - she doesn't post on a hell of a lot else.

i don't mean to be difficult - but what is the argument here - regarding this?

poinsettydog · 28/12/2008 18:41

indeed. If rev enjoys being able to offer her expertiose and experience on a message board, then it does make the message board more interesting for posters.

She does need to make sure she doesn't feel vulnerable in any way for doing so. I suppose, though, if you get to a stage when you do feel vulnerable, it might be too late.

Dotterel · 28/12/2008 18:41

yes but most of our 'experts' don't make it clear that by posting on MN they are putting themseles on the line professionally and have to seek supervision from higher orders.
I mean Solidgoldbrass doesn't have to check in with Cynthia Payne every time she talks about the rights of sex workers, does she?

soapbox · 28/12/2008 18:41

I was only trying to be helpful - she is worried about her RL supervisor/mentor reading her posts (and those wrongly attributed to her) so it would make sense for her to have a different name for the posts that are not in her Rev professional capacity. That was all I was trying to say!

Hassled · 28/12/2008 18:41

As a confirmed Atheist, can I leap in and say how interesting the Rev's Reluctant Worshippers threads are? Yes, she's certainly taken something of a gamble with her anonymity but it was a very valuable gamble, I think, in terms of what she brings to MN. Her threads make you stop and think for a bit, are inclusive and informative. I'm very grateful for what she brings to MN, and if she needs external support then why not?

And she was very careful with her words and measured in her responses on the Moldies threads. I make notes, you realise .

hunkermunker · 28/12/2008 18:41

FBB hasn't posted to say she might get in RL trouble about posting re HR stuff. Therein lies the difference.

Anyway, really going out now. Feel free to dissect my motivation for posting and find me lacking in moral fibre all you like.

morningpaper · 28/12/2008 18:42

well it wouldn't have been an issue if THE INDEPENDENT HADN'T RUN A FRONT PAGE STORY MISQUOTING HER

You see, LAST week, she probably thought the chances of that were fairly slim

Tortington · 28/12/2008 18:44

the rev might get in trouble for something she didn't actually say -t hat was printed in the papers.

i thnk its fair to comment on that

PLease someone explain the argument - i dont get it

is the argument that if the are a 'expert' in something, that you shouldnt post across board.

and if so..why is that even an argument?

EffiePerine · 28/12/2008 18:45

sorry you've been caught up in this Rev, esp as you have been the Voice of Reason throughout

you'd think all the proper journos were on holiday or summat

TWINSETinapeartree · 28/12/2008 18:45

I really dont get why rev is getting a hard time on here

EffiePerine · 28/12/2008 18:45

on the bright side, who actually reads the Indie?

soapbox · 28/12/2008 18:45

Custy - the argument isn't that you shouldn't do that in the normal run of things it would make no difference. However, if you know that your superiors are reviewing your posts on here, then it might be best to choose a different name for the non-professional posts.

Dotterel · 28/12/2008 18:47

well, luckily she can get expert support from you on that one, eh MP

Rev mate, don't worry, it's only a bit of swearing on tinterweb. Will soon be forgotton.

makingafamily · 28/12/2008 18:47

I promise i'm not trolling but i need to ask exactly what is a moldie????

Tortington · 28/12/2008 18:47

oh soapbox, i see your argument. yes of course there is a namechanging facility to help those who want to keep their anonymity.

but like MP said i reckon that the chances of her being brought up on a scandle based on someon else quote - were v. slim.

but yes grat point about the namechanging facility to hide your identity - that was my argument regarding the moldies who wanted to protect their identity and went and started a secret forum.

onebatmotherofgoditschilly · 28/12/2008 18:49

is there any reason for you to get involved in what seems to be a perfectly amicable conversation between other posters?"

well, when it doesn't seem to be perfectly amicable, then yes, namechanger, there are many reasons why another poster might become involved. What with it being an open freakin' forum and all.
Perhaps all this freedom is freaking you out?

soapbox · 28/12/2008 18:49

Unfortunately, when I did that Custy, no bugger ever answered my threads

I do agree that it was rather an unlikely newspaper article and very unfortunate to be misquoted!

SaintGeorge · 28/12/2008 18:51

I am tempted to tell you what I really think of you because of that comment onebat, but I won't.

Tortington · 28/12/2008 18:53

aww soapbox.

TheTwelveDAISYofChristmas · 28/12/2008 18:54

howfunntisthis, considering that question to onebat was precisely your third ever post on MN and all of them on THIS thread (at least under that name) what right have you to question anyone's getting involved at all?

onebat has been part of this whole debate from pretty early on.

onebatmotherofgoditschilly · 28/12/2008 18:54

the rev's superiors might be overseeing her posts on here purely because she has asked them to do so.

As far as I can see, she has asked them to do so because she is in the unusual position of offering what might be perceived as authoritative advice here (ie. the Church's advice), by virtue of her being a minister.

She is being very sensible and humble, and ensuring that she says and does the right thing with the power that she may have with those who believe.

God, who could possibly manufacture find a problem with that?

Tortington · 28/12/2008 18:54

eh up, missed a fight darn it

soapbox · 28/12/2008 18:56

Onebat - no one has a problem with that as far as I can see, except for the Rev herself, who fears that she could be in trouble because of the Indie article. That is why people were posting to her about all of this.

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