Laugh reaction disappeared?

[Mareleine]

Hi so I reported my own post earlier (as per your instructions on this) because someone (obviously not me on my own post) had used a nasty mocking "laugh" emoji on my serious post. I even named the poster who had done it.

In the last hour, my own laugh reaction on posts has been removed. I have not used the laugh emoji to mock anyone.

Has someone mixed something up or has the laugh reaction been removed for everyone overnight? I'm hoping it's the latter because it's obviously being used to bully people and I've seen numerous threads on this before it happened to me.

That's a nice idea about the heart, or as @PiggyPigalle said upthread said if the "thanks" emoji was renamed it could be used for funny without the potential for misuse with the clapping hands.

Who said it was dramatic? Apart from you just then?

I agree.

It’s ridiculous, it’s an anonymous site. People can just quote and 😆 or say I have a different opinion to you and that’s the end of that. I wouldn't count an emoji as bullying and if you do I really don’t think the internet is a safe place for you and I’m not being sarcastic. If you are that fragile, put the internet down and find a safer hobby.

You are stirring it up and making it sound dramatic with your comments about people outing themselves and it being cathartic. You're implying the conversation is angrier and more unpleasant than it actually is.

So you think it’s acceptable for someone who’s just posted about disability to receive a mocking 😂 emoji?

We see you

I suppose the 'thanks' emoji will have to do

I thought the 'thanks' button worked well and didn't really need expanding into different reactions. I've noticed far fewer reactions these days and the extra step of choosing the relevant emoji stops me bothering too.

Thank goodness it’s been taken down, if you’re trying to help someone and somebody puts a laughing emojii on it’s horrible!

I bet they're shitting themselves, about outing themselves, for using an emoji, on an anonymous message board.

Nowhere did I say I thought it was acceptable.

The Internet is a society of a sort, and using various parts of it involves following the social rules on those sites about how you behave towards others, including the guidelines on MN if you choose to use MN. People who are unable to follow social rules are the ones who need to put the Internet down and find a hobby they can cope with without resorting to being nasty to others. That's why moderated sites ban the perpetrators of poor behaviour not the victims of it. I'm amazed an adult needs this spelling out to them but apparently there are more than a handful of you around.

Agree.

Especially as all you need to do if you want to 'out' the person laughing is name them on the relevant thread, with or without a screenshot.

All of this drama could have been avoided if MN had either continued without reactions, or introduced them like other sites, where everyone can see them.

(To my knowledge I have never used the laughing emoji)

Snowflakes everywhere! I think if you get upset by a laughing emoji, then you're maybe a bit too sensitive. I've used it when I've found something funny, to be honest, I've never seen it used in a bullying situation often, maybe a couple of times. Certainly not enough to warrant it being taken down anyway. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Ah. So you’ve called me a bully, really? “a few of us” around. I have never used it to mock someone. Ever. So now I can take offence to your post and get upset about it OR I can know I’m the better person, who hasn’t resorted to an insult.

My point I am trying to make is that if someone is extremely upset by a 🤣 then for their own sake the internet may not be a safe place, not if it’s going to impact their mental health.

Yes, I can see I don't have it as an option. Good news

That's why moderated sites ban the perpetrators of poor behaviour not the victims of it

Which in this case would be banning or suspending people misusing the emoji, not removing the feature entirely from the site.

People on line talking about social rules invariably mean “my interpretation of” social rules IME. On a public forum people will have genuinely different viewpoints on this, each with good reason.

I hope MN do come back on this because I’d be interested to know if it really is being used maliciously regularly, the extent of misuse or if its just a few users who need reminding/banning. I’d be interested to know how many people complaining have actually experienced genuine malicious use rather than objecting to the potential of malicious use that justified global removal of the feature rather than a more nuanced response (such as permitting in some topics, restricting use from new users etc).

I use emojis a lot to signal agreement or appreciation where I have no actual content to add. I don’t like adding “agree” or “funny” along with 50 other posters all saying the same thing - its just adding noise at that point

OTOH I also don’t see why emojis can’t be public with usernames.

My point I am trying to make is that if someone is extremely upset by a 🤣 then for their own sake the internet may not be a safe place, not if it’s going to impact their mental health.

Or people could be less cunty? Victim blaming is a bit cheap.

I think we're getting to the crux of why people have been doing this for so long. Inability to take other people's perspectives.
People are really doing backflips to justify why they think it was ok to secretly bully people on this site for months now their favourite toy's been taken off them.

People mocking others as snowflakes are exactly the type of person who caused it to get taken down.

I have never used it to mock someone, but do use it on a long running word association thread when posters are funny. I like it.

I am perplexed that since no one else can see it but the poster that it causes such an extreme response.
Plenty of people pile on posters with words-how is a "mocking" emoji more problematic? It doesn't cause a pile on because no one can see it.

It feels very sanitising and unnecessary to remove it.

I've never called you a bully but I called people engaging in a certain behaviour (bullying) bullies. If that's you then you're self-identifying into that category, there.

@MrsMitford3 I've already explained upthread why it's such a problem. This is the last in a very long list of (other people's) posts in site stuff which you can look up if you want to see it from the other side.

Indeed.

Afternoon, everyone. This thread has turned into a bit of a bunfight and there's also another thread running on the same topic. We're going to close this thread to new posts now but you can find an update about the laugh emoji here. https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/site_stuff/5324503-laugh-reaction?reply=144711521

Still with the dramatic language. Some people disagree with you. Remaining in disagreement doesn't mean they are unable to consider another viewpoint, it just means they disagree. Nobody is doing the verbal gymnastics you are accessing them of.