Announcement re deletion of Wig and Robe/Judge Flounce threads

[carrie (mumsnet)]

Dear mumsnetters,

We are now able to shed a bit more light as to what actually occurred re the Wig and Robe/Judge Flounce episode. We are pretty sure (having received a confession of as much) that, as some of you suspected, W&R/JF was a non-lawyer masquerading as a QC. Given this knowledge we have deleted the relevant postings and banned the user from the site.

If nothing else the whole business is a salutary reminder that you can never be completely sure that folks are who they say they are and neither should you necessarily completely trust the advice, especially "professional" advice, posted on mumsnet.

As a result of some concerns raised by you we are looking into making parts of the site, the swaps and weight loss clubs for example, something that operates via mumsnet HQ so that people's addresses are not being circulated. If anyone has any other suggestions then please [email protected] or post them here and we promise to consider them.

We?d also remind folks that when organising meet ups you should take the same precautions you would when meeting anyone from the net - make sure you meet in a public place and that others know where you are going.

Having said all that, it would be a shame if this relatively rare occurrence of someone pretending to be someone they are not changed the warm, supportive, welcoming and caring atmosphere on mumsnet - and we're confident that you won't let it!

Thanks for all the supportive and helpful emails we've received from so many of you.

Carrie, Rachel and Justine

Thanks Moondog
You are very good remembering all of that!

Ample demonstration of the fact that I have a lot of time on my hands these days,bh!

Ho hum....

just quickly looked back at a few of themoneyshots posts- very into Pierce Brosnan

have done it! proof positive of judge flounce's true identity

Lav - the one thing that's in no doubt is that "she " knew f* all about law. Doubt we'll ever know any thing else but it's fun conjecturing.

Nice Moomin! I'm thinking more the judge in the animation in Pink Floyd's The Wall, for some reason...

MOOMIN- PMSL x 2

Haven't read this thread all the way through - but it does strike me as rather odd that when I suggested there could be 'trolls' on here last week (or was it earlier this week) I was basically shot down in flames and told 'does it really matter' - yet many people on this thread seem to think it DOES matter - she conned people into believing in her situation (which was a false one) and even made lies about losing babies. If someone can do that as 'one' person - why can't other people also be making up stories, to get sympathy and to lead others to 'believe' that their sympathy was true????

I'm sure there's several...law of averages on any internet forum, etc.

On the other hand W&R was rather specifically giving out duff advice under false pretences, which could've led people to make dangerous real-life decisions...whereas if I (or you, for that matter!) turned out to be the proverbial hairy-handed lorry driver, no harm done...

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actually from experience trolls often do that - make 'friends' and make people feel secure with 'who' they are. Not all trolls are 'obvious' and just out to disrupt forums - in fact many are the opposite - 'blending' in and drawing people into their stories.

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I wonder if there is a trollsnet out there, written by trolls for trolls

Trip trap trip trap over the rickety bridge...

I'm just sorry this creature upset so many lovely people on here. However, I hope it makes MN stronger. Shared experience does tend to do that, so there's hope! Just it made people sad.

I was suspicious as I have never met a lawyer who dispensed free advice.
I was not too suspicious about the poor advice because in my experience lawyers are forever dishing out inaccurate advice.(apologies to any good ones out there)

hold on! so she lives in pontypandy?
omg!
its fire fighter penny!

Posted today on the Knowhere site:

Steve SCHINDLER by lesley lewis (Member 131875) on 7-Jan-05
You have been rumbled oh dear you didn't think we'd fall for it indefintely did you?

Re: Steve SCHINDLER by Steve Schindler (Member 159867) on 14-Jan-05
Oh God, hello Katherine. See you're calling yourself Lesley now then. For anyone who's now unfamiliar with this person, her real name is Katherine Louise Phillips, my ex who I lived with for three years until I dumped her after I discovered she was cheating with some computer nerd named Darren/Daryl. >>more

Acorn profile for address Steve Schindler's website is registered to:

Type 40: Young working families
(1.94% of the population live in this ACORN type)

Likely Characteristics
The highest concentration of Young working families are found in places such as Telford, Stevenage, Harlow, Basingstoke, and Basildon.

Family Income : Low
Interest in current affairs : Low
Housing - with Mortgage : High Educated - to degree : Very low
Couples with Children : High
Have satellite TV : Medium

Young families living on estates in New Towns make up most of this type. Most families are two parents with school age children, but there are also significant numbers of single parents.

Few people have formal educational qualifications beyond a few GCSEs.

Employment prospects tend to be in the manufacturing, construction and retail sectors. As a result, family incomes are lower than the national average.

Unemployment and part-time working are above average.

Accommodation is mostly in three bedroom terraced houses, some rented from the council and housing associations, and slightly more privately owned. Where houses are owned they tend to be lower priced. Remortgaging levels are high.

People are careful with spending. Food might be bought at Asda, Kwik Save or the Co-op, and many other items are purchased through catalogues. Mother and daughter might shop for clothes at New Look.

Typically these families will only run a single car, probably bought second hand. However a motorbike or scooter might act as a second vehicle.

Horseracing, doing the football pools, angling and bingo are all popular as is watching cable and satellite TV.

They're real princes on that Knowhere site, aren't they?

wtf?? what's all that about family research?

Correct me if I'm wrong but would a psychologist really discuss research results in such a manner?

Mother and daughter might shop at new look(?) food bought at kwick-save etc ??

I had a VERY brief look. Deeply unpleasant bunch.

and who is lesley lewis?

Could Lesley/Katherine be on MN ?!

Evidently someone who doesn't like Steve Schindler! I'm guessing he makes a habit of this sort of thing...

LIZS - I wondered that but then her member number is lower than his - suggesting she joined the knowhere site before he did?

Of course the number could be random

His full new post from Farnsfield:

Anyway Katherine, what took you so long? Been slopping out again?>>

From Bulwell (Nottingham) site:

(Hm - not Katherine Louise Phillips then - has he made up so much he has lost track of what he said?)

From Chepstow: