Deleting the regular information roundup on the Ukraine War Threads.

[DucklingSwimmingInstructress]

Mumsnet what on earth are you playing at?

I have done a roundup of information from 4 different Ukraine news outlets for THREE years now, almost every day. You know this. You've seen it, the thread has been reported when unpleasant people invade the thread; it's one of the most long running threads in Chat. It serves a purpose.

Today, in your infinite and oh so great wisdom, you decided to delete the 20 minutes' work I'd done on the Kyiv Independent Telegram thread.

This is the message I got:
Hi there,
Thanks for getting in touch. We have checked and in fact deleted your post altogether because it was really just a wall of cut and paste links rather than a considered contribution to the discussion.
Best,
Hope
MNHQ

These threads have been useful to people for 3 years. They are read and commented on and the curated information, I've been told, is useful. On the basis of these threads as a whole, one person even put together a vanload of supplies and took it to Ukraine.

They take hours and hours of my time.

If you had a problem with the posts, then why start now and not three years ago?

Please restore it.

-Duckling.

100% agree, poor show Mumsnet. Clearly you aren’t aware of what these threads are or the value these posts add. We’ve discussed a few times whether people want these roundups and the response is always a resounding yes.

Ironic that posts like these are deleted on a whim yet CSA material stays up for hours….

Agree with this: the Kyiv Independent posts are important

The whole point of the roundups, is to provide a snapshot of anything relating to to the Russian invasion of Ukraine by Ukraine.
If we wish to read an article in more depth, we have the link provided.
Where's the harm in that?

For all of us interested in European peace, you couldn't have chosen a worse time to do this, when the USA is pulling the rug from beneath Ukraine and we're all feeling pretty down about it.

@DucklingSwimmingInstructress Thanks to Ducks and others who've stepped up at times, for always providing this important information.

I lurk on the threads but I find your round ups and links extremely helpful

Please restore the post MN

The round-up posts and their links are incredibly important!

Please reinstate them!

And every word of this.

(with big thanks to @Blueshoes , @DesdamonasHandkerchief and @LIttleDrummerGirl and others too who do the roundup)

We all really appreciate those round ups, deleting them is a very weird thing to do - what rules are they breaking?

The Ukraine threads in general are one of the worst parts of Mumsnet.

<\Waits to be called a Russian shill>

And why is that?

These daily round-ups form the basis of comment and conversation between posters. If this is a violation of policy, how has it been allowed the past 3 years? Why now and at such a critical juncture?

Agree with almost all of the above.

I’ve found the long running daily updates highly informative and I know they have been a major spur to further discussion on the subject.

I can’t quite work out why only now someone at MNHQ has a decision been made that they are somehow inappropriate, and have to wonder what prompted it.

This is a perplexing decision by MNHQ - the posts don't seem to be breaking any T&C - and rather than not being 'considered contributions' are widely appreciated by other posters [and lurkers] on the threads over several years

Looking forward to an explanation

Ukraine is a very very hot topic and the driving force behind the war, Putin, is actively trying to attack the EU in hybrid and sometimes physical ways.

Providing information is a valuable function and Mumsnet has been a place where the information has been accessible to many.

Providing the links allows people to track the information back to source, if they want to do their own research.

Why remove posts with them?

In the past Mumsnet have actually made small changes to make posting links easier. I've posted on Site Stuff before about it. At that point Mumsnet seemed to support the threads.

What's changed? Why have you made this decision now, especially now? I don't for a moment suggest anything nefarious, but it's very bad timing at this point and just - why?

Hi @DucklingSwimmingInstructress we're so sorry for any stress caused here. We've just replied to the email you sent, confirming that we've reinstated your post by now. We appreciate how much time and energy goes into compiling these round-ups and you're very welcome to continue posting them.

Sorry again!

That was the right decision.

Thanks for the update Mumsnet, adding my voice to the usefulness of the daily news updates on Ukraine. Many of us can’t bear being on x now and so access to credible information is really helpful.

i’d add that, in an era of disinformation and deliberate propaganda by bad actors, the help from mumsnet in not allowing disinformation to spread unchallenged is more important than ever- so any threads which provide substantiated updates are really, really necessary.

@JoMumsnet thank you for that. I usually catch up on them when I have time to digest them properly and fully appreciate the work that goes into them.

Between that and being told off on another thread without specific examples of poor behaviour being given on another thread, it's starting to feel as though mnet is losing to the Trump juggernaut.

Perhaps a voucher for wine and flowers should find its way into Ducks inbox by way of an apology.

Either a Russian shill or you have failed to realise that you don't in fact have to open and read every thread on the board in order to be on Mumsnet at all. I'm amazed you have time to post anything while busy reading the whole of Chat, AIBU, Becoming a Parent, Being a Parent, Books, Childcare, Education, Feed the World, and all the rest.

Tell you what, HauntedBungalow: if you think it's one of the worst parts of Mumsnet, just scroll on by. (Only a suggestion; you might after all be a practising masochist with far too much time on your hands.)

Thank you very much.

I'm sorry for losing my temper, and at Mumsnet Hope. The situation in Ukraine is one that covertly or openly affects everyone now, even if many people dont realise it yet, they do provide a service I feel, and I admit I've sunk heart and soul into them.

It's much appreciated that the situation will be rectified and I hope won't happen again.

Thanks, @JoMumsnet

Ducks.

I appreciate your work so much.

Yes, this is so important.

@JoMumsnet the post has been UnDeleted, but please could you now UnHide it?

Thank you.

Yes, of course. All sorted!

@JoMumsnet Thank you.