Are site guidelines regularly reviewed and updated?

[CasuirDubh]

Like the title says.

I see a lot of hate speech and hateful speech that apparently doesn't break site guidelines.

Are these matters ever reviewed? If so when can we expect the next one?

Are you reporting such posts?

If you see something that concerns you report it so mn or nightwatch can take a look.
They can't possibly read every single post ,they need some help from us.

They regularly squash post that break the rules.

I report them. They don't break the rules. So I think the rules are the problem.

Do you have any examples?

The definition of what's ok and what's not seems to be a very fluid thing.

You see actual genuine hate speech (as against opinions that hurt someone's feelings) and it isn't deleted? That's unusual.

Indeed.

Well I suppose it depends on whether supporting and justifying crimes against humanity and ethnic cleansing constitute hate speech.

I think they do. Mumsnet doesn't have anything in their rules about this so the posts aren't removed. Unless you can argue they're goading or inflammatory which occasionally works. Isn't it ridiculous?

Actually hurting someone's feelings has a much better chance of deletion than saying killing children is OK, or ethnic cleansing or similar. It's very jarring on a site that is geared towards parents and parenting in the main.

Freedom of speech is important. Other people can see things very differently because of Politics.

Hello @CasuirDubh we review our Talk guidelines periodically. We don't allow hate speech as defined by UK legislation. In many cases, posters report posts as hate speech but ultimately it's down to our moderators to decide if they meet that threshold. We'd be quite surprised if a post claiming 'killing children is okay' was left to stand on the boards, though. Did you report this?

Well fair enough they probably don't say those exact words. They say bombing the tents they're in is OK.

I reported another one months ago that said that Gazan children may be terrorists and that one wasn't deleted. The inference being that terrorists can be killed and Gazan children may be terrorists.

@BeckyAMumsnet I suppose the point I'm trying to make is that very upsetting language and views are allowed on those boards. I'd be obliged if Mumsnet would consider looking at this issue specifically in terms of reviewing what is acceptable. Supporting crimes against humanity may not be illegal, but should it be acceptable on Mumsnet?

As I've said before in emails, having this type of language, including language excusing and supporting attacks on children is not appropriate for a parenting site.

Tbh, if no-one is permitted to say "i think bombing children is ok as a means to achieve XYZ" then no-one will be able to see that position for what it is. I support clear language and not euphemisms that help people feel better about what they're saying.

I'm not familiar with the threads you're talking about though. I can see it's awful to read. I don't have an answer.

That's a fair position. That's what's happening at the moment. Posts like that are generally allowed to stand.

I just find it hard to read justifications of these atrocities, particularly on this site, so I thought I'd raise it as a suggestion.

It seems so off that what I would consider to be minor infractions (someone reporting a post that they feel is "goading", whether it is or isnt for example) get deleted but supporting or excusing an atrocity that results in the death of children is OK.

Edit: Sorry I meant to tag @HyggeTygge

The vibe is very weird on here ATM OP.

I'm presuming you are Irish so in that case reporting anything is a waste of time.

Or that!