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Like a twat.....

52 replies

Ihavenoclu · 23/06/2024 21:36

Really? Like a twat you have choosen style over substance again?!!! Just awful. Surely it breaks 'talking guidelines' no?

Like a twat.....
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BronwenFrideswide · 24/06/2024 12:57

Dawn French wrote a book about herself called 'The Twat Files', where I am from twat and twattish means doing something daft or silly.

I think the wording of the ad by MN is perfectly acceptable and accurate as to what it is portraying.

weathervane1 · 24/06/2024 14:02

Just add that when I was in America, twat was considered a lot more offensive and definitely on a par with cunt but in a sexual way. Mind you, the word cow in the US is often considered rude.

ASighWasMadeOfStone · 24/06/2024 14:13

Lndnmummy · 24/06/2024 12:45

Another non brit here. Interesting. I have had many posts deleted for referring generally to 'Karens' which is a misogynist term and highly offensive, according to talking guidelines. But twat and cunt is ok? In advertising copy?🤔

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Karen is a misogynistic and ageist insult and came out of racist insults used in the US.

If you've had "many" posts deleted for using such a slur, maybe it would have been an idea to find out why such language isn't acceptable.

Not that using Karen/cunt/twat have anything to do with English not being anyone's first language either. It's simply a case of some (twat/cunt) not being against the language guidelines of Mumsnet unless being used to insult someone personally (and then, not always) while misogynistic, ageist and racist language very definitely is. Thankfully.

PumpkinSly · 24/06/2024 14:18

Twat can be offensive or a term of endearment. Much like when I call my husband a knob head, it depends on the delivery.

TallulahBetty · 24/06/2024 14:20

You must be new here

PumpkinSly · 24/06/2024 14:20

IncompleteSenten · 24/06/2024 08:30

Even if it did mean cunt it's still not breaking talk guidelines because simply using profanity is not against talk guidelines.

Shit bugger bollocks piss fart twat fuck cunt

See?

Now, if someone was to reply to my post and say IncompleteSentenc you are a pious prick-faced tit-toothed, fart-arsed wanker... That would be against talk guidelines.

I think people who voted for ukip are fucking twats - not against talk guidelines
You voted for ukip? You fucking twat - against talk guidelines

😂😂

IncompleteSenten · 24/06/2024 14:22

AllTipAndNoIceberg · 24/06/2024 10:02

For me, twat is also a term that evokes ye olde MN. It used to be widely used back when the whole site was smaller and more like a recognisable group of posters with a shared vernacular — I’m thinking like 17-odd years ago. Maybe that copy was written from that headspace 😁

I still remember a thread titled ‘I am a twat, I am a twat’ (but can’t remember what it was about). Might be in Classics

That reminds me about the poster who started a thread saying they literally twatted a spider and loads of us clicked through ready to complain about the misuse of the word literally...
Only to find that the op had in fact quite literally twatted a spider.

Blackcats7 · 24/06/2024 14:30

Lndnmummy · 24/06/2024 12:45

Another non brit here. Interesting. I have had many posts deleted for referring generally to 'Karens' which is a misogynist term and highly offensive, according to talking guidelines. But twat and cunt is ok? In advertising copy?🤔

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Karen as an insult is much more offensive than any swear word both for women called Karen and women in general, most specifically middle aged white women for whom the term was coined.
I use twat on a daily basis and don’t even count it as swearing. It’s more like plonker or twit.

Metempsychosis · 24/06/2024 14:36

IncompleteSenten · 24/06/2024 14:22

That reminds me about the poster who started a thread saying they literally twatted a spider and loads of us clicked through ready to complain about the misuse of the word literally...
Only to find that the op had in fact quite literally twatted a spider.

I remember that. It gave joy to my pedantic little heart.

LifeExperience · 24/06/2024 14:44

I'm American where twat means fanny, but I love using the word on MN. It just so aptly sums up so many people.

weathervane1 · 24/06/2024 14:47

@LifeExperience but not Fanny in the US sense of fanny pack. Language is a wonderful dynamic thing. 😀

BeckyAMumsnet · 24/06/2024 15:04

Hello @Ihavenoclu thanks for posting and we're glad your fellow Mumsnetters have clarified a few points. Swearing is allowed on the boards and there may be the odd profanity at the milder end of the scale scattered in our emails. If you ever think we've crossed a line, though, do let us know.

<Gazes at crap oven gloves like a c*>

SleepPrettyDarling · 24/06/2024 15:07

longdistanceclaraclara · 24/06/2024 09:40

It's an insult here, up with cunt. Berk is a shortening of cockney slang for cunt - Berkshire hunt.

Wait, how does this work? Berk is prounounced to rhyme with work, isn’t it, not bark?

IncompleteSenten · 24/06/2024 15:39

SleepPrettyDarling · 24/06/2024 15:07

Wait, how does this work? Berk is prounounced to rhyme with work, isn’t it, not bark?

I thought it's Berkley hunt not Berkshire hunt.

Durdledore · 24/06/2024 16:09

IncompleteSenten · 24/06/2024 14:22

That reminds me about the poster who started a thread saying they literally twatted a spider and loads of us clicked through ready to complain about the misuse of the word literally...
Only to find that the op had in fact quite literally twatted a spider.

Thank you for reminding me of this thread!! Might try and dig it out later for the pleasure of readers of this thread 😂

MichaelFabricantsSyrup · 24/06/2024 16:53

It's Berkeley Hunt not Berkshire
and Berk is probably the same level of offensiveness as twat here - so not offensive at all.

user29759764277 · 24/06/2024 17:01

Also east midlands and also use twat interchangeable with wally/idiot etc. I had no idea some regarded it as offensive until a few years ago. Berk is even softer than Twat. More like twit.

I would literally never say the C word though. That is offensive.

PocketSand · 24/06/2024 17:18

When I was around 12 I was walking to school in winter having been forced to wear a white woolly hat. A teenage boy taunted me with a little ditty 'who's that twat in the silly white hat, doodar, doodar'. Despite the intent I found it quite catchy and was singing it at home. Until my mum heard me! I come from the North West and was raised JW so swearing of any kind was strictly forbidden. My naïveté saved me from a slippering.

LardoBurrows · 24/06/2024 18:31

This reminds me of a book I read several years ago called My Boyfriend is a Twat, A Guide to Recognising, Dealing, and Living with an Utter Twat,
by Zoe McCarthy. It was very funny.

Ihavenoclu · 24/06/2024 22:00

TallulahBetty · 24/06/2024 14:20

You must be new here

Nope

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Ihavenoclu · 24/06/2024 22:02

PumpkinSly · 24/06/2024 14:20

😂😂

UKIP twats

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Ihavenoclu · 24/06/2024 22:03

Ok ok ok, I'm learning. Still wincing as I think it is really vulgar but as I said this morning. I stand down.

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Lndnmummy · 24/06/2024 22:05

ASighWasMadeOfStone · 24/06/2024 14:13

Karen is a misogynistic and ageist insult and came out of racist insults used in the US.

If you've had "many" posts deleted for using such a slur, maybe it would have been an idea to find out why such language isn't acceptable.

Not that using Karen/cunt/twat have anything to do with English not being anyone's first language either. It's simply a case of some (twat/cunt) not being against the language guidelines of Mumsnet unless being used to insult someone personally (and then, not always) while misogynistic, ageist and racist language very definitely is. Thankfully.

Edited

I am very well aware of the origin of that term and I am also comfortable with how I use it. I am not looking to debate that on here, I have done that enough times to last me a life time. And I will reserve the right to interpret how I use terms as someone who is not born and bread here. I don't think I need anyone's permission to state my view and experience.

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PelvicFloorClenchReminder · 24/06/2024 22:11

This was an enlightening thread.

I am considering Michael Buerk completely differently now.