Abuse of name changes

[TinselAngel]

This is not aimed at one poster in particular but addresses a pattern I have noticed in FWR and it may well happen elsewhere on the site.

The ability to name change is sometimes abused by particularly goady posters who once they have exhausted everybody's goodwill by their goadiness, name change in order to trick people into interacting with them again, on the same subjects.

To me this is an abuse of name changing, which must actually be intended to help posters maintain their anonymity so different threads cannot be matched together and posters outed.

It's also against the spirit of making parents lives easier, and can make some topics and sections of the site virtually unusable for some users because very prolific, goady posters cannot be ignored.

I suggest MNHQ introduce a new talk guideline around abusing the name change feature. You must be able to "look behind the scenes" and if verify this when people report it.

I don't go on FWR . But I do name change loads. Because apprently I'm easy recognised. Because of how I type and say things. I wish I could change it. But name change does allow me to hide from a handful of people for at least a little while.

It is not goady to say that turning up to a rally organised by a far-right man who has been convicted for VAWG is a bad idea. It used to be known as stating the obvious. Not on FWR.

No one has ever said anyone is Hitler. That is another irritating trope that is constantly levelled at us whenever we attempt to say anything remotely about the right-wing.

Other way round. Women are capable of organising their own rallies and. It's the far right who turn up to women's rallies, since the first rule of misogyny is that women are responsible for everything men do, and clearly in this instance sharing the same pavement is absolute proof of guilt, this means posters turn up to FWR to gleefully point this out. Over and over and over and over again. 🤦‍♀️

I'll judge women on their own actions, what they say and what they do. I won't condemn them because a random evil man shares the pavement with them.

Interestingly this condemnation isn't extended to the TRAs. A TW convicted of murder and kidnap instructed a cheering crowd to punch TERFs. Any criticism from our visitors? Crickets. Mermaids invited paedophiles to be members of their board. This only came out when they sued the LGB Alliance (for being lesbian and gay) and had to declare the full Board. I would absolutely condemn that, but I don't see the goady posters doing that.

There was literally a thread about attending a Tommy Robinson rally. No, women aren't responsible for him. They are responsible for their own actions.
PP has stated she's not a feminist. Allies of the GC are actively trying to remove rights of access to abortion in THIS country. State these things on FWR and there's a pile on. I'm not surprised in the slightest that people name change!

And she didn't 'share the pavement with him'. She deliberately attended a protest organised by him. That's very different from just being in close proximity. It's intentional.

I very much doubt anyone not Hitler has been called Hitler @Igmum. Do you normally distort what posters you don't agree with say?

Fair point re Hitler. I rephrase as 'x is insanely right wing'

Strange how absolutely no one here is engaging with the substance of the issues.

I believe in biology. I believe in safeguarding children, especially children with mental health difficulties and autism. I believe in same sex attraction.

If you don't, that's fine.

However if I happen to share a pavement with a right wing loon why I am to blame for what they believe?

Why don't the posters who don't like FWR criticise violence against women? Even women they don't like?

Why don't they criticise the paedophiles on the Board of Mermaids and the horrific lack of safeguarding?

Biology is biology and facts are facts whoever says them. If you want to debate fine, but move away from silly 'gotchas'. They really don't say what you think they do.

This thread will end up getting deleted if people use it to recycle arguments made on the deleted Tommy Robinson thread. MNHQ have been kind enough to confirm if such behaviour as I have described occurs they will look into it, so it would be best to leave this thread now and take the other arguments back to FWR.

I am engaging with the substance of the issue in the OP, which is: somebody says things I don't like, so should be sanctioned or silenced.

That's not what Tinsel is saying though. I understand what the issue is, but I don't think it can be addressed by MNHQ when name changing is allowed and encouraged. The best thing to do is to ignore those posters on threads where they are attempting to derail with repeated posting of the same kind of comments and accusations. But I appreciate that's not always easy to do and that I often don't follow my own advice.

Sockpuppeting is against the rules (and is for nearly all forums)

Could you lock in the username on a thread and not allow changes (you already default to one used)

Obviously, this would not stop different accounts, but would stop basic socking?

OP, like I said, I genuinely don't know the poster you're referring to. But if they were posting as they do under the one username, would that be an issue do you think?

This was decided against as occasionally people want to name change mid thread for genuine reasons - for example, they've already commented under their usual name but would like to add something more personal/outing so use a different name. I've done that in the past and I don't think it's against talk guidelines as it's not socking.

It would be good if someone could explain, I have no idea what is going on. Why not just be clear?

What's the Tommy Robinson thing about? I know who he is, obviously, he's vile.

If you want people to understand, explain. Yes, there are trolls. But clear language can help.

I've posted things innocently about my experience on FWR and got savaged.

Now have I ticked 'like' to people who like Tommy Robinson?

TinselAngel · 19/06/2024 09:49
This thread will end up getting deleted if people use it to recycle arguments made on the deleted Tommy Robinson thread. MNHQ have been kind enough to confirm if such behaviour as I have described occurs they will look into it, so it would be best to leave this thread now and take the other arguments back to FWR.

There's no point in continuing this thread. MNHQ have responded to OPs question and OP is satisfied with that answer.

OK! I will do what you tell me to do and not ask questions.

Probably for the best, otherwise you might find yourself the subject of a Site Stuff post to shut you up.

This.