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Males in female spaces thread

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Leafstamp · 29/12/2022 17:44

hi @MNHQ. I see that you deleted my thread, with the following message:

’We've received some reports about this thread and have decided to delete it - its premise generalises negatively about an entire group of people, which is not something we allow.’

Please could you clarify which group it was negatively generalising about?

I am worried that you censoring this type of discussion means that women cannot discuss the risks of male violence and of other lower level uncomfortable experiences that women have, particularly when in a state of undress or otherwise vulnerable.

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Edinburghmusing · 29/12/2022 21:35

All men are potential rapists.

Transwomen are men.

there’s some facts for you.

and I agree on your dignity point.

haggisbreath · 29/12/2022 21:41

FlirtsWithRhinos · 29/12/2022 21:33

Sorry, i missed the original thread.

Are we allowed to observe that although only a minority of men pose a physical risk to women, nevertheless society accepts all men are excluded from women-only spaces? All men are excluded to manage the risk posed by the few, because while this may be unfair to the majority of men, it is even more unfair to women to expose them to the significant risk posed by a few men, especially when all the downside is borne by women and all the upside gained by men?

Are we allowed to observe that trans women have not been shown to pose any less risk to women (old, female meaning) than other males, and therefore any argument to include trans women in women's spaces based on not restricting the many because of the risk of the few applies equally to males who still identify as men?

You've worded this so well. I often struggle to verbalise this exact thing to others when this is, to me, the clearest explanation of why we need woman (adult human female) only spaces. Thank you.

DorotheaLadis · 29/12/2022 21:41

I was on the other thread also deleted today.
It's a shame if a few comments, not keeping within guidelines, meant the whole thread had to go.

Findyourneutralspace · 29/12/2022 21:44

This is one of the best, and most thought provoking/affirming posts I’ve read in a while. It’s not about restricting men, however they identify - it’s about protecting women, but the majority taking the hit for the few really struck a chord.

Findyourneutralspace · 29/12/2022 21:45

Quote fail but that was to @FlirtsWithRhinos

spidereggs · 29/12/2022 21:50

I was discussing this with my elderly father today.

Exceptionally rural, back water, Scotland.

Local pub been brought back from dead by gay, married couple. Friends visit over Xmas, asked to use female toilet. For safety.

No, they were told, no man nor woman should or will feel at risk here. Why is it that the mens space is not safe for you, as the female space is safe for women, regardless of sexual orientation, age, let's look at that.

If there is one individual making you, as a transgender person feel unsafe in the male toilet, let's deal with them, rather than moving you.

No further issues were raised, everyone got on with life.

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