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Thelnebriati · 27/06/2021 16:52
Can you please remove the word 'debate'? It doesn't add anything.
Especially if the trans widows threads are to remain on the board.
EstherMumsnet · 27/06/2021 21:19
Evening! Just to let you know we've seen this and will discuss it with the team.
MichaelMumsnet · 08/07/2021 15:53
Hi all, as Justine said the other week we wanted to create 2 boards in feminism - one which housed trans/women's rights related discussions and one that largely didn't.
As previously said, many users have asked for the split so they can contribute to feminism discussions but avoid this particular issue, which they find difficult. We think the word debate (as opposed to chat) is a good signifier of that.
As we've said, we're not going to be scorched earth about moving threads around - of course things will veer off topic and of course it's fine for the Transwidows threads to stay in the sex and gender topic. It's more about the general impression that there's a board to to discuss women's v trans rights and a board to discuss other feminist issues.
YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet · 19/07/2021 09:57
[quote Thelnebriati]Posters have just realised that the 'Mumsnet moderation principles for discussions around gender identity and sex' are now titled;
Trans Rights Moderation Policy. www.mumsnet.com/i/trans-rights-moderation-policy[/quote] Hi @Thelnebriati - thanks so much for alerting us. We're replatforming the site at the moment and this was an error. We've now changed it back to the original title.
JustineMumsnet · 19/07/2021 13:12
Afternoon, everyone,
As MichaelMumsnet previously posted our intention in creating these two boards was to make it clear that conversations to do with self-id and sex based vs gender based rights could be found in one topic and could be avoided if folks so wished (as some users said they’d like to). So far we think that is working well - we’ve had to move relatively few threads and people seem to know where to post things. As importantly, the discussions about these issues haven’t been derailed or diminished - Mumsnet is still somewhere you can freely express gender critical beliefs (so long as you remain civil) without being hounded or vilified or accused of being a bigot.
However, we can see people feel strongly that the word ‘discussion’ is preferable to ‘debate’ and as it’s clear that it’s something that is important to many of you, we’re going to change the title accordingly. We’ll get that done asap.
With regard to the transwidows threads, since the split of the boards they have continued unabated along with the undoubted support they provide. So we’re going to keep them in this topic as they clearly relate to the Trans issue and hopefully given the title change from Debate to Discussion this sits easier with folks.
One further thing. We don’t think that posts expressing sex critical beliefs here are necessarily bullying or trolling, as long as they are made in a civil way and within our guidelines but we do treat posts on their merit and we always look into posting histories etc so if you have concerns about any post or poster report it and we will of course take a look.
Thanks, as ever, for all the input.
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