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Deleted Thread Announcement - "Lads"

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MoleSmokes · 13/05/2020 19:09

Message from MNHQ: Lads, we're getting a billion reports and tbh, we're not sure that we're the place for this. How about thrashing it all out somewhere else? We're going to remove this thread now. Love and peace, MNHQ.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3907094-Comerfords-style-on-Twitter

Could someone from @MumsnetHQ please explain why the Thread Deletion message apparently addresses the OP (male) and the subject of the thread (another male bullying a female)? That is, rather than the Mumsnetters actually contributing to that thread who (I will take a wild guess!) were all or mostly female?!

I was on that thread and I did not see anyone posting, apart from the OP, who I know to be male, although MumsnetHQ might know better, of course.

It is particularly concerning that MumsnetHQ deleted a thread in response to "billions" of reports about Mumsnetters deploring the actions of a male (not a Mumsnetter, I would guess!) who has been relentlessly bullying a female Mumsnet member.

Then to address the Deletion message to "Lads"!!

Women were supporting a woman who was, and probably still is, being subjected to a sustained campaign of bullying and vilification by a male.

The fact that that this was brought to the attention of Mumsnetters on FWR by a male Mumsnet member is irrelevant. It is disappointing that MumsnetHQ seems to think that this is the most important aspect.

Even more disappointing that MumsnetHQ sided with the male bully (a Mumsnet member?? Really??) and his gang of Twitter followers against a female Mumsnet member and female Mumsnet members condemning her persecution by him.

Mostly this has been on Social Media but this has been part of a sustained campaign that has included "economic sanctions", blocking her receipt of donations from Mumsnetters when she was in dire financial straights.

From the flippant tone of the deletion message you seem not to have grasped that this is:

a) far more serious than people throwing hissy-fits on Social Media

b) about a young woman being persecuted, primarily by a gang of males led by a man - not a trivial spat between two "Lads"!

OP posts:
SunflowerSeedsForever · 14/05/2020 21:34

Ah right, two blokes were having a barney? That explains the lads thing.🙄 We don't get many butch fights on MN, I'm sorry I missed it.

But using the term Lads is like using the term Girls.

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 14/05/2020 21:47

Z0rr0.

He did report it.

twitter.com/AidanCTweets/status/1260301256918282246

Yes, he did. I reported because it was clearly libellous. No, no-one asked after his wife.

ItsLateHumpty · 14/05/2020 23:12

We had a number of reports about that thread. Including from at least one non-member.

I do hope, as well as acting on non-members reports, you’ve also asked our monitors for subs to help support MN ‘during this difficult time‘.
I’m sure they love and value MN as much as we do, and would hate to see it fold....

And everything MoleSmokes said. Don’t ask us to support you with our labour, ask us to pay for the privilege, and then silence us.

JamieLeeCurtains · 14/05/2020 23:22

I can't even see that tweet, so I'm none the wiser.

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 15/05/2020 00:25

Jamielee
Here is a SS.
This person could of course be a member,anyone can sign up,but I am sure there would be a pattern to their reporting if they are a member.

I really hope Charlie is OK, she's had her name dragged through the mud.

Deleted Thread Announcement - "Lads"
MoleSmokes · 15/05/2020 05:09

Z0rr0, Redshoeblueshoe, DioneTheDiabolist - if Comerford was on the Mumsnet thread, I did not see him there. So, apologies if anything I said gave that impression.

I have no idea what was supposedly "libellous" about the thread and it is odd that that "libel" was not mentioned in the Thread Deletion Message or by MichaelMumsnet in this thread.

According to the Twitter thread linked above by Oncewasblueandyellowtoo, Comerford says there were "12 or 13 replies" - and he does not claim to have been on the thread himself.

I am pretty sure that the last time I saw the thread that there were 12 replies though I would not swear to it.

However, the only archived version of the thread that I can find has the OP plus 10 replies. The last reply is from the OP and just says, "Thanks for kind words. I'm ok. I am a bit exhausted from all the bear-baiting so I'm using the Twitter timeout to restock, if that's the word."

If there were any further replies and they were problematic in some way, whether libellous or from some bloke muscling in, I guess we will never know. Unless someone took screen shots or Mumsnet can clarify?

However, if to pursue this further would be to make this a TAAT and therefore ripe for deletion, maybe it is best left at that.

Which is also why I am not linking to the archived version that I found.

OP posts:
RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 15/05/2020 09:30

it obviously missed the mark with a few of you

Should really just be

‘It obviously missed the mark‘

MoleSmokes · 15/05/2020 12:45

RufustheLanglovingreindeer I just checked the current conversion rates:

"a few" = "billions"

OP posts:
RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 15/05/2020 16:23

😀

BilboBercow · 16/05/2020 09:14

It's a Father Ted reference is it not?

CodenameVillanelle · 16/05/2020 09:56

Yes it is

BilboBercow · 16/05/2020 10:42

Are people unhappy with the deletion message just not aware it's a Father Ted reference? I didn't read the content but gather either the op was Glinner or he made an appearance on the thread?

HDDD · 16/05/2020 12:32

Just adding my voice to the 'lads' thing. It really was out of place. It didn't 'land badly' - it crashed into the conversation.

MoleSmokes · 16/05/2020 16:06

To quote MichaelMumsnet's post response above:

"The deletion message was an attempt at moderating with a light touch - it obviously missed the mark with a few of you.
The 'lads' was a nod to the OP - apologies if it landed badly."

"Moderating with a light touch"
Deletion of a thread about a sustained campaign of bullying of a Mumsnet member, including economic punishment, ie. having her PayPal account closed down so that she could not receive financial support from Mumsnet members when she was in dire financial straits.

"it obviously missed the mark with a few of you."
Patronising, or what? "Everyone else is in on the joke - did it go straight over your humourless feminist / pretty, little dumb-blonde heads?" (Pick your misogynistic undertone.)

"The 'lads' was a nod to the OP."
Yes - we get it. This is part of the problem Hmm
A jokey "nod" to the OP (male) in a facetious Deletion Message ("billions" of reports FFS!), a Deletion Message that is addressed directly to the OP, ignoring the women commenting on the thread and the fact that it deals with the serious matter of a woman being persecuted in real life.

But hey ho! That's not important. What is important is that a male who is not a Mumsnet member reports a thread started by a male who is Mumsnet member and a Moderator (male?) joins in the "fun" by breaking up a perceived "Twitter spat" with an apposite Father Ted quote. Ha-bloody-ha!

"apologies if it landed badly."
"If" !!! On the FWR (Feminist/Women's Right) Board?
Of course it 'effin "landed badly" Hmm

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