Thread sabotage

[JustineMumsnet]

Evening all,
As you know we aren't ones to intervene when threads go off topic as a rule but we think that sabotaging threads you would rather weren't on Mumsnet/find distasteful is not really in the spirit of the place. We are, after all, generally in favour of free speech and people's right to express their opinions - even ones we might prefer not expressed.
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sabotage and sabateour are fab words though, underused imo.

hear hear

I am guilty of it, too.

And MMJ basically sums up my sentiments, too.

And I was one of those people who came out to say I didn't condone the McCann's leaving their children on their own.

But man those threads were fecking sick.

This is a 4-year-old girl we're talking about here!

A little girl.

And posts about rotting corpses and her little stuffed animal and all that.

I'm not a crier. But those posts were bloody heart-breaking, mostly because they show just how de-sensitised this society has become.

Pardon my French but that's a fucking tragedy.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions and to talk about topical big news stories

Just because this is very close to peoples hearts, as it is about a child, doesn't mean it shouldn't be discussed

I haven't seen anything on here worse than on someforums, infact here most people are very diplomatic in what they say or how they say it.

If everyone tried to censor things they didn't like on here, the board would no longer exist, it would be full of topics on a 1000 posts

No one is making you look at these threads or comment on them, so why not just walk away and read/contribute to something else. No one has the right to kill conversations other than HQ

Threads take random turns all the time, minority.

And some threads turn into something interesting and some go south

Report individual posts and if they are as bad as you think, then MNHQ will do something about them

Just because they are talking about a child doesn't mean t shouldn't be discussed. Would everyone be up in arms if this discussion was about an adult? I doubt it

Exactly expat. We all feel for that little girl whatever her fate. We all have children and can therefore relate to the topic. The one person who has said such awful descriptions was trying to point out over the course of several posts, that some mothers out there have killed their own children whether we like to hear that or not, it happens and that one person has had to deal with that on 3 occassions in her work life. I think some of you logged on, read just a few of the previous posts and thereofre took her posts out of context with reagrds to the whole conversation and decided it was utter filth and should be stopped immediately. WRONG!
We all have difficulties in the comprehension that something somewhere sinister has happened to that poor child. Im afraid your going to have to realise that maybe (and im hoping she isnt) Kate McCann may indeed be guilty.
The fact is none of us know as yet, and speculation however upsetting it may be is all that it is, is mere speculation.

You know, haychee, I really don't like you and find your posts offensive and ignorant.

So I'm going to pretend I didn't read that.

what did i exactly say that was ignorant? and or offensive?

MN HQ - sorry, but haven't read the entire thread, but in light of recent threads yadda yadda yadda.....could we please have a clarification of libel (or is it slander - always get them mixed up)

There was a conversation going on. Who has the pwer and authority to say if that conversation should continue or not, i dont, you dont only mnhq would have such power, they did not step in. In fact mnhq have only said it was wrong to sabbotage the thread not what was said on there was wrong.

Like its been said if your bored of the topic, disgusted by the topic or offended by the topic then leave it alone to those who feel the need to discuss it. And, it is not up to you who can or cant discuss whatever it is up to the individuals and of course mnhq

Oooh you norty people, bumping a thread out of existence like that...

I have never ever done anything like that myself....

WRT to the OP, freedom of speech still reigns, and a new thread can be started at any point. However, sickening speculation that folk dont want blighting would could be a valid discussion is something the majority dont want to see and bumping it out of active convos is not a bar on free speech. After all, folk can still look up hideous comments in the archives, after all.

what could be..... durrrr

MR - surely it's exactly because m's a child that we should be more sensitive. isn't it any decent society's duty to protect its most vulnerable?

thank god, we've all got the luxury of this nightmare not happening to us. i wonder how closely some of you would adhere to "open discussion" if it was YOUR child.

in the midst of this fevered speculation and point-scoring, one person seems to have been forgotten...

So is suppose it was the self police that said "do not sabbotage threads" or was it the self poilicing that said "poopants" or amybe it was the selfpolice that started the whole kate mccann thread.

Just leave those of us alone who want to discuss the possibility that a mother could harm her own child, will you? Some may infact be affected by this personally, maybe not MMC but elsewhere - have you considered that at all?

me too, mmj (about being sucked in) having avoided other threads.
that's it, tho.

You so obviousy didnt read any of my posts on that thread - your making yourself look stupid. I NEVER said she was dead or in a suitcase or anything horrific like that. But you wont read the thread will you, because youve already made your judgement of me.

I actualy hope to god she is alive and well, no one knows where she is or what her fate has become.So shut up and get your facts straight before accusing me of discussing "dead" children, because i never did.

But the bumping the topic is just trying to stop the conversation because THEY don't like it. That is unfair

I was on some yesterday and I only saw one person being OTT about the parents. Lots were saying libelous stuff about the Portugese police though. The rest were asking questions and trying to understand all the conflicting and bizarre things being reported in the media and what was truth and what were lies/speculation. But still some posters were trying to move and the conversation by talking cleaning. Why? Just because they don't want anyone discussing things because it is about a child/parents and that is close to home

People will speculate over a story that has very little detail being released (other than extended family and I wish someone could stop them talking as they aren't helping anyone) and it is a very unusual case

Policing of MN should be left to the people in charge

blimey what a bizarre site

Someone's actually bothered to sit down and compile all that.

F'ckin ell